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PRCD

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So the above graphic is just an example to help the reader understand the difference between ARR and RRR.

Roger that. Understood.

Here's the actual numbers from the trial. Interesting. I can see why they decided to not include ARR in the FDA approval process or communicating risk to the public. Who wants to get injected with a drug for which we have no long-term safety data if it only has a .007 chance of actually preventing an infection in an individual!

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PS - I didn't watch the video. I can absorb information *much* faster by reading text so I spent my time reading the PDF from the study and gave the video a skip.

PPS - If I was going to watch a video, I think it would be something along the lines of learning how to speak Mandarin.
I only posted the video as context. Sometimes it helps to see what motivated someone to write a paper.

You and I have both tried drugs for our conditions and found that the drawbacks outweigh the benefits. This well-cited article explains why:
I wonder if anything has gotten better in the past 8 years since that was published? If not, it appears the Chan School of Public Health at Harvard promoting the current measures as the ONLY solution to our predicament is not talking to the Edmond J. Safra Center for Ethics on some other part of the campus.

Media reports have stated that the incidence of Bell's palsy among participants of the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccine trials is comparable to that observed in the general population. The FDA briefing on the Pfizer-BioNTech trial stated “observed frequency of reported Bell's palsy in the vaccine group is consistent with the expected background rate in the general population”, although this statement was removed from the subsequent FDA briefing on the Moderna trial. However, this reporting is based on a misconception, driven by a subtle distinction between rates and proportions, that has persisted in the lay media. The estimated incidence rate of Bell's palsy in the general population ranges from 15 to 30 cases per 100 000 person-years. Since the 40 000 vaccine arm participants were followed for a median of 2 months, the combined safety population receiving vaccine across the two trials represents roughly 6700 person-years of observation time for an expected incidence of Bell's palsy of one to two cases, in line with the single observed case in the combined placebo arms. Therefore, the observed incidence of Bell's palsy in the vaccine arms is between 3·5-times and 7-times higher than would be expected in the general population. This finding signals a potential safety phenomenon and suggests inaccurate reporting of basic epidemiological context to the public.
 

Bohter

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"I didn't say isolated germs are pathogens. I asked if disease was possible without both a terrain and a pathogen?"

My answer is no.

The terrain would include everything around us that threatens our cellular health....toxins of all kinds.

Cigarettes and lung cancer is one example. Right?

Crap diet, no exercise...stress and heart disease is another one.

No pathogen involved there that I know of...
 

Bohter

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A little Jeff Berwick walk and talk with his dog Lucy.......about Covid....& Crypto too....he is making a sh!t ton of $$ and is helping others do the same as well...

 

afoaf

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Fixed it for you.

Many claims of isolation exist but there's the rub....misuse of the term "isolate".

For problem solving purposes it's necessary to purify down to the single particle in order to prove it was that single particle that caused the disease.

They did not do that in any case.....as there's still a million euro prize waiting for the first researcher to do so....

No virus isolate....no proof of pathogenic germ.

Here's some info on that for SARS-CoV-2....most made claims of "isolation".



.....and if you study the history behind all this you'll find....

The germ is nothing.....

It's the Terrain.
oh, this is that pedantic thing you do....I get it now

it's like how you used to go on and on about Koch's postulates

isolated virus ->
created vaccine ->
vaccine deployed ->
US death rate under 1,000 per day down from peak in January ->
kids back to school ->
disneyland opening ->
might need a new checkbox on your school registration ->
back to normal ->

occam's razor; no reset.
 

ElOgro

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:roflmao:

OMG. Were you this overly dramatic as a child? Nobody wants your soul. And nobody wants to "rape" your sinuses. Would it help if the mean bad nurse gave you a lollypop after she swabbed your widdle nosey? You can do it big boy!!!
Enema. Before.
 

Bohter

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Would any of the terrain theory guys be willing to get exposed to someone with contagous deadly virus?

I'm thinking ebola is pretty deadly.

If it's the terrain, they are going to be safe, right?
Yes....and I've been near someone who "tested positive" already.....but it wasn't long enough to be concerned about "per the rules"....

How about Polio?
 

Bohter

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So then answer me this: what causes disease?
Try reading the work of TC Fry...and others.....Toxemia....




or watch this....posted multiple times.....not hard to follow at all...


They've turned everyone into Germaphobes....which we all know is a mental condition....right?
 
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Bohter

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oh, this is that pedantic thing you do....I get it now

it's like how you used to go on and on about Koch's postulates

isolated virus ->
created vaccine ->
vaccine deployed ->
US death rate under 1,000 per day down from peak in January ->
kids back to school ->
disneyland opening ->
might need a new checkbox on your school registration ->
back to normal ->

occam's razor; no reset.
Correlation does not imply causation....right....

Less cases and deaths from influenza every year at about this same time....right?



....except this year.....we have Covaids.....because we have a special test that says so....
:foreheadslap:
 

Bohter

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lmao!!! He's dead. He was born in the 1800's. When the quack was alive he wasn't even an MD. He was a mathematician. Holy sh!t. You might as well ask your plumbers opinion re medical matters for all the weight it carries.
You're right about the MD part.....will remove the "Dr" in front of his name....for accuracy.

So you're saying someone in one field cannot grasp another?

Tell me more.....about how we should only listen to medical authority of the "approved" kind....

BTW.....he isn't the only person who understood / understands the true nature of disease.....right?

For example....

 

Autoprax

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The funny thing is the idea that doctors are in on the conspiracy.

Not a peep about this by our religious extremist.

That is a lot of drs keeping their fat yaps shut.

Not a word about why they would do this.

Three may keep a secret if two are dead.
 

Pig Benis

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It's not about authority. It's about education, training and experience that is relevant to the discussion at hand. Your mathematician has no relevance to the discussion. Yet you are quoting his work as an authority in the medical field. Did you know what you were doing or did you just blindly accept what someone else told you because emotionally it felt good to you?
 

Bohter

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I'm trained as a Mechanical Engineer.....BSME....

But had no problem at all understanding how the PCR "test" is being used....deceptively.
 
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