Obama's auto plan triggers massive DOW fall

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obama has probably put in more work in these past 3 months then bush did his entire 8 years!

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Yeah, takin a great and free republic and turning it into a socialist state against the will of the people is hard work.
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You guys need to make up your mind. Are your for bailouts (socialism) or against?

Why not blame the money market morons for DOW drop? They are the ones who caused it. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/socrazy.gif" alt="" />

Auto industry should fail if it's not healthy and smart enough to compete.
I'd give incentives to Tesla instead.
 

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Read this quote from the WSJ article one more time:

Over the weekend, the Obama administration forced out the chief executive of General Motors after the administration's auto task force determined neither GM nor Chrysler put forward viable plans to restructure and survive. Monday, the administration was reported to be pushing bankruptcy as the lead option for the auto makers. Chrysler is closely held.

Sunday, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner signaled some banks are still ailing and will need further government aid.
Obama PUSHING for bankruptcy as lead option, the following paragraph says banks still need more aid. WTF?

The same should go to the Banks and failed Insurance Corps that went into forming the Ponze Derivatives Scam. Why didn't he reject those bailouts? He didn't make them come up with a reasonable plan. He actually wrote into the bailout bill a ridiculously unreasonable loop hole.

The writing is on the wall and it's very clear. He is setting up his banker friends while letting industry fail. And Wallstreet is starting to figure it out. want proof. AIG was his biggest campaign contributer. Giethner a banker lobbyist not to mention a tax cheat. Starting the see the big picture?

The answers to our problems are not easy. But he's doing the polar opposite of what needs to be done. And that's build industry. He's doing what happens in other countries like Argentina where they loot the treasury and then pull the rug out. You're a damn fool if you don't think it can happen in America.


Obama rejected the auto makers plans and thats why the DOW fell. The OP says Obamas plan. the premise is false. Until the automakers come up with an acceptable stratagy..they get to go under. Just like what Ann Coulters wants.
 

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The writing is on the wall and it's very clear. He is setting up his banker friends while letting industry fail. And Wallstreet is starting to figure it out. want proof. AIG was his biggest campaign contributer. Giethner a banker lobbyist not to mention a tax cheat. Starting the see the big picture? Look..you are an idiot. I think we all can agree on that. So why do you come here your posting Nasel Drip? Why dont you post something funny instead of this ridiculous blather that all you flip floppers are breaching upon. Relax..take a pill...turn off Faux...go buy a new car or something. I mean..do you have a point? Is there something you are trying to get across to us? Are you trying to change our mind on something? whats your deal?
I guess he's trying to say it's time to walk down Pennsylvania Ave. with pitchforks and torches <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/shrug.gif" alt="" />

Then we can go back to the glorious days of the "free republic" when the water was clean and buisnessmen were honest and friendly...
 

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You can agree on what I said? Does that make you an idiot too.

My point? I say get off your asses and start writing your reps. I do. I read the bills being pushed through congress. Do You?

If your not interested, fine. Why read what I've posted?

YOU'RE the idiot for replying to something you feel is not an issue or that your not interested in.

Seriously. There are hundreds of posts that I could care less about or that I feel are asinine. I simply don't respond.

Obviously I irratate you. At least I've got that going for me.


The writing is on the wall and it's very clear. He is setting up his banker friends while letting industry fail. And Wallstreet is starting to figure it out. want proof. AIG was his biggest campaign contributer. Giethner a banker lobbyist not to mention a tax cheat. Starting the see the big picture? Look..you are an idiot. I think we all can agree on that. So why do you come here your posting Nasel Drip? Why dont you post something funny instead of this ridiculous blather that all you flip floppers are breaching upon. Relax..take a pill...turn off Faux...go buy a new car or something. I mean..do you have a point? Is there something you are trying to get across to us? Are you trying to change our mind on something? whats your deal?
 

Landloct

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You can agree on what I said? Does that make you an idiot too.

My point? I say get off your asses and start writing your reps. I do. I read the bills being pushed through congress. Do You?

If your not interested, fine. Why read what I've posted?

YOU'RE the idiot for replying to something you feel is not an issue or that your not interested in.

Seriously. There are hundreds of posts that I could care less about or that I feel are asinine. I simply don't respond.

Obviously I irratate you. At least I've got that going for me.


The writing is on the wall and it's very clear. He is setting up his banker friends while letting industry fail. And Wallstreet is starting to figure it out. want proof. AIG was his biggest campaign contributer. Giethner a banker lobbyist not to mention a tax cheat. Starting the see the big picture? Look..you are an idiot. I think we all can agree on that. So why do you come here your posting Nasel Drip? Why dont you post something funny instead of this ridiculous blather that all you flip floppers are breaching upon. Relax..take a pill...turn off Faux...go buy a new car or something. I mean..do you have a point? Is there something you are trying to get across to us? Are you trying to change our mind on something? whats your deal?
Writing your congressman is probably right around posting on an internet message board in terms of effectiveness <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif" alt="" />
 

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Yeah, takin a great and free republic and turning it into a socialist state against the will of the people is hard work.
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You guys need to make up your mind. Are your for bailouts (socialism) or against?

Why not blame the money market morons for DOW drop? They are the ones who caused it. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/socrazy.gif" alt="" />

Auto industry should fail if it's not healthy and smart enough to compete.
I'd give incentives to Tesla instead. [/quote]

Mr. "Skateboarding has given me nothing and everything"
is it your reading comprehension or my editing skills?
I have now edited properly my opinion... that help?
 

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Writing your congressman is probably right around posting on an internet message board in terms of effectiveness <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif" alt="" />
I mostly try to stay out of the political stuff, but I think you're seriously underestimating your fellow citizens' level of apathy. I heard a radio interview with one of Texas' congressmen, and he was saying that if he got a couple dozen emails or letters on a given subject, that was a big deal and something worth giving some attention to. More than 50, and he was "getting flooded" with letters, and it was an clear sign of public outcry.

The staggeringly overwhelming majority of people never take the time to write. Imagine if we all did. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/socrazy.gif" alt="" />
 

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Writing your congressman is probably right around posting on an internet message board in terms of effectiveness <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif" alt="" />
I mostly try to stay out of the political stuff, but I think you're seriously underestimating your fellow citizens' level of apathy. I heard a radio interview with one of Texas' congressmen, and he was saying that if he got a couple dozen emails or letters on a given subject, that was a big deal and something worth giving some attention to. More than 50, and he was "getting flooded" with letters, and it was an clear sign of public outcry.

The staggeringly overwhelming majority of people never take the time to write. Imagine if we all did. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/socrazy.gif" alt="" />
no doubt! It wasn't always this way though. People used to write, and Presidents would write back! I have a few letters from former Presidents sent to one of my relatives (may he r.i.p.)...Christmas cards even.

and i don't think Badfish is talking from a fellow citizens P.O.V.. I think he's across the pond. And i think he's fully aware that no one here writes to their elected officials. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
 

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i wonder when barack will be telling me what medicine to take what time to go to bed what i should wear to work and if i need to be moved to a new job.... what a great vision of hope and change...
 

Landloct

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and i don't think Badfish is talking from a fellow citizens P.O.V.. I think he's across the pond.
Partially right... same side of the pond for quite some time, but not a fellow citizen, just a resident.
 

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i wonder when barack will be telling me what medicine to take what time to go to bed what i should wear to work and if i need to be moved to a new job.... what a great vision of hope and change...
do you think he'll feed us pablum or will we be able to eat solid foods?

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