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afoaf

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what's the purpose of this closure?

are there problems? alternatives?
 

Sharkbiscuit

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what's the purpose of this closure?

are there problems? alternatives?
It's almost 70 years old and a bunch of white people who don't live in Detroit/Chicago/Gary/Dayton and spend two months a year in that part of Michigan don't want their beaches looking like Price William Sound. Ditto the year-round residents who have seen what "throw all the sh!t in the lake" does and love their zone.

It's really weird. I have run into some NW Michigan crew on surf trips and they don't come across as partisan at all, they are rabidly pro-gun, not woke or anti-woke one way or the other etc. but they're really, really vehement about oil pipelines in the Lakes for whatever reason, and this one has been Enemy #1 for a while.
 
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Ifallalot

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what's the purpose of this closure?

are there problems? alternatives?
There are problems with closing anything right now

The alternative is rail, so the NIMBYs are fighting the other NIMBYs

Michigan is pure trash anyway
 
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Sharkbiscuit

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Through a brief google search, it was first isolated for medicine in 1860.

Shipping was a lot slower back then.

I'm going with Lincoln.
I've decided it serves my own interests to extend the definition slightly.


 
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Autoprax

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I've decided it serves my own interests to extend the definition slightly.


MTL should post in the mental health thread. I'm not going over there no more. In fact I shouldn't even be here, I'll be back in the foil section if you need me.