I agree with coquaraujo on this one. If you have back to back waves in the overlapping heat format, Felipe gets the first one and busts a standard air reverse that would normally be a 5-6, Sally Fitz is on the next wave and does a comparable one that we all know is huge for the women that they would typically drop an 8+ it would be tough for the judges to adjust mid heat. I get where you may be coming from with equal pay, equal scoring but lets face it, the women do not surf equal and that would result in most heat totals being below 10points for the women. Not a good look for the WSL.No need to adjust the scale. If a ride is only worth scoring as a 2.1 compared to the other rides in a heat., score it as a 2.1
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Mid Year Cut
- Thread starter Bob Dobbalina
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Then change the criteria. The wsl is judging women by the way men surf. And by doing so they are pushing women to try to surf like men.
if you look at it like gymnastics men and women are equally good and both get scored in the excellent range. There is no-talk of women being lesser gymnasts.
Believe it or not GD, just because you are a male, I assume, does not make you a better surfer than half the world’s population.
if you look at it like gymnastics men and women are equally good and both get scored in the excellent range. There is no-talk of women being lesser gymnasts.
Believe it or not GD, just because you are a male, I assume, does not make you a better surfer than half the world’s population.
Interesting to think of where this whole thing would be if Slater had a bumpy start this year and was not in position to make the cut. Would wsl usher out their Michael Jordan/tiger woods or would this have remained a backroom conversation?
I couldn't imagine the stress of going into bells with two 33's and a 17th.
I couldn't imagine the stress of going into bells with two 33's and a 17th.
Shoots, I can. It means I got to surf for 4 months and someone else paid for it. Travel, lodging, free gear.
Again, I understand you don't have much experience judging surfing: if it isn't easy judging a heat using a 0-10 scale it'd be much harder and unfair doing it with, said, a 0-6 scale.No need to adjust the scale. If a ride is only worth scoring as a 2.1 compared to the other rides in a heat., score it as a 2.1
And yes: it's just surfing but it's quite hard to judge high performance surfing of the highest level. I know it doesn't seem hard from your couch but...
If you spent years judging high level high performance surfing it's hard to figure why are you writing what you did...
The freak out from the surfers below the cutline now is pretty comical.
I agree with some of the concerns.
-The cost of qualifying is high. Events in several continents + prize money is low, blah blah blah...
- It's really not fair to be culled after so few events. The seeding, the inequality in conditions, injury, blah blah blah.
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And nobody has mentioned that Medina just gets to avoid the cut and waltz back on tour when it starts going left?
https://www.worldsurfleague.com/posts/499538/gabriel-medina-awarded-2022-wsl-ct-season-wildcard-for-events-following-mid-season-cut
I agree with some of the concerns.
-The cost of qualifying is high. Events in several continents + prize money is low, blah blah blah...
- It's really not fair to be culled after so few events. The seeding, the inequality in conditions, injury, blah blah blah.
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And nobody has mentioned that Medina just gets to avoid the cut and waltz back on tour when it starts going left?
https://www.worldsurfleague.com/posts/499538/gabriel-medina-awarded-2022-wsl-ct-season-wildcard-for-events-following-mid-season-cut
Seems like this is headed back to the early '80s where you risk tour lyfe only in your early 20s knowing you need to move onto another career ASAP unless you're one of the perennial top 10. I'm not sure the market is going to pay what it paid Kelly in the past though.
We did, and it quickly degenerated:
so gabby just waltzes in, no points, doesn't cut off like all those other dudes, and yet the erBB is silent?
i am ashamed of you. otf would have spouted off 10 times by now.
forum.surfer.com
Seems like this is headed back to the early '80s where you risk tour lyfe only in your early 20s knowing you need to move onto another career ASAP unless you're one of the perennial top 10. I'm not sure the market is going to pay what it paid Kelly in the past though.
We did, and it quickly degenerated:
so gabby just waltzes in, no points, doesn't cut off like all those other dudes, and yet the erBB is silent?
i am ashamed of you. otf would have spouted off 10 times by now.
In this model, you NEED the regional qualifier winners to get a short track into the big show.
What's old is new.
I don't like the mid year cut, but if it is simply a means to an end for a smaller field, fine.
It's unfair and a poor instrument, but fine.
The surfer's used to have a Union with a spokesperson to handle a lot of these discussions (WPS. I think Graham Stapleberg "G" was the chief at one point. Nobody likes him, but everyone likes him to work for them at some point). Owen Wright shoulda called Chris Smalls to get to work.
I'll give Elo credit where it's due. He's got a stomach for bloodletting. He's stood on the cutline with both feet when his predecessors waffled.
It's still unfolding so I may change my mind after reviewing it at the end of the year but I think I like the mid-year cut as a fan. Bells and Margeret River are a lot more critical with a cut on the line. Starting the year off in Hawaii adds to the excitement as well. I'm also hoping this will lead to less days in underwhelming conditions for the rest of the season.
Still not a fan of the WSL finals though.
Still not a fan of the WSL finals though.
Lots of heavy emotions both ways as the mid-season cut was realized. Here's the final tally of who will do the rest of the 2022 season and are already qualified for the start of the 2023 season. Gabby got the men's wildcard; women's side hasn't been determined.
www.worldsurfleague.com
Championship Tour Competitors Locked Following Mid-season Cut | World Surf League
www.worldsurfleague.com
The gap between women and men in gymnastics is much closer than surfing.
