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dirtandrib

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I apologize for not wading through the wetsuit thread. It is too bulky and time consuming for me.

To the point, have any of you feedback on the Matuse Dante, the hoodless version (3/2 or 4/3) that you could share?

Thanks. I have used their Tumo and Hoplite for 10 years (got them cheap and have sent them back for repairs) and I like their warm, durability and non-absorbing properties, but I know the Dante is not the same material. But they have my size for sale in a vintage model and if it fits and lasts even close the other ones I am interested.

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When I tried one on at Mitch's the guy told me that they were going to do a redesign for this years suits with an improvement. He told me that you won't get the reliability of the hoplite or tumo models. You also need to size up. I wear a large tumo and the XL dante fit the same when I tried it on. The detached chest zip and weird velcro pullover inner jersey kinda bugged be to be honest
 
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I have been using Matuse Wetsuits since 2013. I have two Tumos from 2013 that I still use, two Dantes (one from 2016 and the other from 2019), and one new Tumo from last year (2022). All the wetsuits are 3/2, aside from the 2013 Tumos that are 2/2.

My feedback is that the Dantes are very similar in warmth, and more flexible than the Geoprene Tumos, but they don´t last as much as the Tumos.

My Dante from 2016 broke in my knee last year (2021) (I don´t use it anymore), and my 2019 Dante is holding well. I try to rotate my wetsuits as much as I can.

My takeaways are the following: I will buy more Geoprene wetsuits at a discount. I like Geoprene more than the Geoflex material. That said, for the price of the Geoprene suits, I think they are a very good deal compared with other wetsuits on the market.

From my friends, I was the only one using Matuse wetsuits. Now all my friends are using them. Mainly Geoflex wetsuits.

I hope this helps.
 
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kool-aid

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Hmmm, I've been pretty happy with my dante. It's not a perfect suit but it's pretty warm, flexible enough, and has held up well for me. Mine is on its second season (maybe 2.5 seasons in actually) and it still gets the job done. It does leak a bit more than when it was brand new and I find the neck area can flush a little bit when first going out but otherwise I find it to be a comfortable and reliably warm suit (5/4). I would not in a million years replace my hyperfreaks with dante's. The 5/4 hyperfreak is much warmer and more flexible than the 5/4 dante which I would put between a 5/4 and 4/3 hyperfreak in terms of warmth. The dante is definitely more reliable than my hyperfreak though so if you can about that it's worth considering. It seems like the neck entry on the tumo would solve the flushing problem on the dante but anything less flexible than a dante and I'd rather just be a little bit cold... also $700... happy to just stick with two hyperfreaks at that price.
 
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I agree with sizing up. I have a 2/2 short arm Dante in large and could easily go XL.
As far as performance goes, I immediately felt the seams in the legs leak as I waded out very first surf. Also it’s the hardest suit to get out of that I’ve ever had and it’s a 2 mil short arm ffs! Sizing is a factor as it’s so damn tight on my arms.
 
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Sharkbiscuit

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casa_mugrienta said:
I would not buy any wetsuit named “Dante”.
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Have you considered starting your own Casamoogsies Reports consumer review media enterprise? I swear you've posted detailed feedback on some Drivers, the Pier Pony, a Rusty, Sharp Eye, and I think I've tallied Cyber, Axxe, that French wetsuit company, another one you refused to name....

Or at least a dollar store tequila brand called Casamugros or something that rips off Casamigos branding to appeal to Icy Hot Stuntaz and other aspiring Andrew Tates, without actually trademark infringing?
 
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Sharkbiscuit said:
Have you considered starting your own Casamoogsies Reports consumer review media enterprise? I swear you've posted detailed feedback on some Drivers, the Pier Pony, a Rusty, Sharp Eye, and I think I've tallied Cyber, Axxe, that French wetsuit company, another one you refused to name....

Or at least a dollar store tequila brand called Casamugros or something that rips off Casamigos branding to appeal to Icy Hot Stuntaz and other aspiring Andrew Tates, without actually trademark infringing?
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TBH I’d like to look into starting a wetsuit company.
 
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Toobz said:
I agree with sizing up. I have a 2/2 short arm Dante in large and could easily go XL.
As far as performance goes, I immediately felt the seams in the legs leak as I waded out very first surf. Also it’s the hardest suit to get out of that I’ve ever had and it’s a 2 mil short arm ffs! Sizing is a factor as it’s so damn tight on my arms.
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I had the same s/s 2mil and it is really easy to get on (that is the idea of the open collar and fully detachable zipper), but I agree it can be a pain to wriggle out of, for some reason. It was a good thin suit for SoCal summer/fall, down to about 60F water.
I tried a 4/3 hooded version on a few months ago, and with the thicker material, it did not seem easy to get in or out of. My usual LT definitely felt snug. Decided the fit / design wasn't for me. No experience with their other models except 3mil Scipio, which IMO was a really warm suit.

edit: here's a review:
empireave.com

Matuse Dante Wetsuit Review – Empire Ave

The finish of the rubber on this Matuse Dante Wetsuit makes it kiss your skin like soft-lipped angels. Seriously, it’s cushy and comfy all over
empireave.com empireave.com
Like the review says, the entry is a good idea, but probably needs some tweaking for the next iteration of the suit.

[dank RasTrent dreads, bro. So irie!]
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In addition to shitting up OP's thread with degeneracy, there are some Dante mentions for a few pages starting with page 4 in the good hooded 4/3 thread:

Good hooded 4/3?

Just copped a hooded 4/3 Isurus Evade and a 4.5/3.5 O'Neill Mutant through the Cleanline memorial day sale. Hoping Isurus fits. I've heard they run short. Goal is to not be shivering after 90 minutes next winter.
forum.surfer.com forum.surfer.com
 
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Toobz

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oeste858 said:
I had the same s/s 2mil and it is really easy to get on (that is the idea of the open collar and fully detachable zipper), but I agree it can be a pain to wriggle out of, for some reason. It was a good thin suit for SoCal summer/fall, down to about 60F water.
I tried a 4/3 hooded version on a few months ago, and with the thicker material, it did not seem easy to get in or out of. My usual LT definitely felt snug. Decided the fit / design wasn't for me. No experience with their other models except 3mil Scipio, which IMO was a really warm suit.

edit: here's a review:
empireave.com

Matuse Dante Wetsuit Review – Empire Ave

The finish of the rubber on this Matuse Dante Wetsuit makes it kiss your skin like soft-lipped angels. Seriously, it’s cushy and comfy all over
empireave.com empireave.com
Like the review says, the entry is a good idea, but probably needs some tweaking for the next iteration of the suit.

[dank RasTrent dreads, bro. So irie!]
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I agree, not hard to get into at all it’s just getting out of the damn thing. I don’t see mine lasting long with the battle I have getting the thing off. Those seams will be facked in no time.
 
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doubt sizing these up will help with fit. pattern is kinda whacked. took a chance on a 5/4 hooded sale. was cheap enough. nice and light. dries pretty fast and doesnt leave a neoprene shroud of turin on your wax.

but...for a size large
the hood is too small and the legs are too short. the arms are too long and the shoulders/chest is too tight. which other than the shoulders and chest makes no sense.

it has stretched some as jap rubber will do but still a bitch to get out of. the rubber does feel nice but not 5/4 warm. and yes it flushes. not often but when it flushes it flushes a lot.
 
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silentbutdeadly said:
weird. size large in oneil, LT Isurus, L Matuse. A little snug at first but my tumo is pretty much on par with my oneill
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We have this discount surf store where I bought mine from. I wonder if that's the reason they were all there - must have been big batches of them that just came out tiny? Speaking to the kid at the store when I went to replace it with somethign else, he said that a lot of people were giving them the same feedback ...woulda been nice to have known that before buying it.
 
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waxfoot said:
Matuse is midget sized - be very careful if buying online... I had a hell of a time getting in & out of mine Easily size one, or even 2 sizes up when buying these.
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It's the neoprene.

Around 10 years ago when they were the next big thing I bought one an never used it - it was practically impossible to slide into.

No fucking way was I going to spend 10 minutes struggling to get into a suit.

Sold to some fool on craigslist.
 
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waxfoot

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casa_mugrienta said:
It's the neoprene.

Around 10 years ago when they were the next big thing I bought one an never used it - it was practically impossible to slide into.

No fucking way was I going to spend 10 minutes struggling to get into a suit.

Sold to some fool on craigslist.
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Gave mine to a mate that's a lot smaller than me - usually wears a medium - and he loves the large. The rubber felt good to me after some shoulder dislocation action getting in and out. Actually wore the springy for most of a winter season, but I should have ditched it after the first surf .... or actually tried the thing on in the store ( who does that anyway for a wetsuit?)
 
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Sharkbiscuit

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casa_mugrienta said:
It's the neoprene.

Around 10 years ago when they were the next big thing I bought one an never used it - it was practically impossible to slide into.

No fucking way was I going to spend 10 minutes struggling to get into a suit.

Sold to some fool on craigslist.
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I thought Matuse was the fancy Japanese stuff that's good?

I was looking at the 2mm jackets on the intarwebz. Took me a minute to realize one of their offerings is a full front zip. But the backzip ones looked interedasting.
 
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