Mast length for prone foil

casa_mugrienta

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What length mast are guys using to learn to prone? I think I started to learn winging on a 68, then jumped to 82 (which I still have) and now I’m on a 90. Would 75 be magic?
What are your options for learning i.e. do you have boat or ski access?

How deep is the water where you will be learning?

I'm asking because by far, the biggest impediment to my learning has been not being able to even get my stuff wet most of the time because it's too damn shallow everywhere around here except when the tide is 5ft plus. So much time and gas money wasted pointlessly - would have been cheaper and expedient just to buy a 45 cm first.

If you're in a similar situation - no ski access and shallow water - order yourself a 45 cm mast. It's a foot short than the 75cm, which is going to open up a lot more options for you in the beginning.
 
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PRCD

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What are your options for learning i.e. do you have boat or ski access?

How deep is the water where you will be learning?

I'm asking because by far, the biggest impediment to my learning has been not being able to even get my stuff wet most of the time because it's too damn shallow everywhere around here except when the tide is 5ft plus. So much time and gas money wasted pointlessly - would have been cheaper and expedient just to buy a 45 cm first.

If you're in a similar situation - no ski access and shallow water - order yourself a 45 cm mast. It's a foot short than the 75cm, which is going to open up a lot more options for you in the beginning.
Have you hit the bottom with the 75 cm mast? The thing is, the water level is going to go up and down with the waves. You've gotta be in chest deep water to start, but I think the idea is that you ride high on the shoulder. In YouTube videos I see guys doing it in pretty damn shallow water.
 

casa_mugrienta

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Have you hit the bottom with the 75 cm mast?
Yes

The thing is, the water level is going to go up and down with the waves. You've gotta be in chest deep water to start, but I think the idea is that you ride high on the shoulder.
When you're learning you're going straight. You need plenty of deep takeoff and runout area and room for the foil to sit deeper than normal.

Things get shallow quick. Equipment is expensive if damaged too.

That's why Del Mar dog beach was a popular spot to learn. Deep water. Not anymore. Too bad Solana beach pumped all that sand - the rivermouth is almost closed up.

In YouTube videos I see guys doing it in pretty damn shallow water.
Experienced riders riding higher on foil.
 
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PRCD

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When you're learning you're going straight. You need plenty of deep takeoff and runout area and room for the foil to sit deeper than normal.

Things get shallow quick. Equipment is expensive if damaged too.

That's why Del Mar dog beach was a popular spot to learn. Deep water. Not anymore. Too bad Solana beach pumped all that sand - the rivermouth is almost closed up.



Experienced riders riding higher on foil.
This explains your desire to tow for a bit.
 

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i read some posts on the Progression Project (saw a bunch of posts by Hdip) and ordered a 75cm yesterday - out for delivery today

i'm going to try to prone at cowells tomorrow on my downwind board. we got a puppy in february (marley passed in Dec :cry:) and he's not ready to be left alone in the truck or at home, so i can only get out when i have someone to watch him. wife is taking pto tomorrow and there's no wind forecast, so i figure it's a good day to give it a go.
 
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