Lower Back Pain

[Mike_Jones]

"Slipped Disc" does not necessarily cause pain-

Disc Herniation - StatPearls - NCBI Bookshelf

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Piriformis?

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Aaron Kubal, DC on Instagram: "Unicorn Syndrome Will this exercise give you piriformis syndrome? Should we stop doing it? Lmk what you think before & after watching! I’m pretty indifferent about the exercise. Can be a nice way to train the lateral hip & glute muscles… that’s about it. BUT piriformis syndrome is NOT a good reason to tell people to stop doing this. I like to call it unicorn syndrome. Or sasquatch syndrome. We’ve all heard of it, some of us even claim to have seen it… but where is the proof? Bottom line: people should be lifting weights. Videos like this make it harder for people to get started because it makes lifting seem unsafe. The natural thought progression: “If this exercise can give me piriformis syndrome, what other exercise can give me issues?” We create unnecessary barriers to exercise when we spread horseshit like this. Or in this case, unicorn shit. #piriformissyndrome #piriformis #sciatica"

4,265 likes, 176 comments - aaron_kubal on March 16, 2023: "Unicorn Syndrome Will this exercise give you piriformis syndrome? Should we stop doing it? Lmk what you think before & after watching! I’m pretty indifferent about the exercise. Can be a nice way to train the lateral hip & glute...

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Sciatic foramen are lateral passages from the spine through the pelvis to the hip joints. Four segments of sciatic nerve and four segments of piriformis muscle pass through them. An individual patient's configuration of the nerves and muscles determine whether the swelling pulls up on the leg nerve or down on the spine nerve. Pulling down on the spine nerves causes lateral column deformation against the disc at the L4-L5 stack.

Humans evolved our upright gait by escaping land predators by running into cold water. Therefore our foramen only needed to be large enough to accommodate cold, shrunken muscles. That's why these problems are so very common in land-adapted humans. Ice packs help along with the tennis ball massage.
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[One-Off]

Surfing last summer during a hurricane swell with my 59 year old friend who still rips, I asked him how he keeps so amped up, he said he does this foundation training video (or the original one by the same guy) every morning and he swears it helped eliminate his back pain. Since then I've been doing it in the morning before work followed by a couple sets of push ups. almost every day for months now, seems to really help with back issues. It is only 12 minutes and pretty easy to do.

I actually tried it. I think it will be a good warm up for my bodyweight and barbell strength work outs. It feels good after you do it. I have to have the video on. I don't think I could remember all the prompts. Maybe if I keep doing it.

 

[Random Guy]

I’m only on chapter 3 and I’m almost back to normal
So ridiculous

 

[One-Off]

I’m only on chapter 3 and I’m almost back to normal
So ridiculous

Put that book in a tabernacle.

 

[Random Guy]

Put that book in a tabernacle.

Unfortunately this morning its worse
when walking even a short distance, my back may “seize”, and my legs may buckle, and I just go don
not flat on the floor, but like down on one knee

unreal
weve got about 4 inches of light snow that im determined to shovel later once the book kicks in again

 

[One-Off]

Unfortunately this morning its worse
when walking even a short distance, my back may “seize”, and my legs may buckle, and I just go don
not flat on the floor, but like down on one knee

unreal
weve got about 4 inches of light snow that im determined to shovel later once the book kicks in again

Burn that book!

 

[CutnSnip]

and there is a lot of BS on IG and the interwebs.

yea notice how all these "experts" are young my back felt gret in my 20's to - not enough time in the game to have any experience with this stuff.

on. top of that any expert actually working dont have time to be on social media all day. grifters in the purest form.

 

[Random Guy]

Ok, not to make this all about me, but
a few hours ago i wasn’t able to walk a few feet
but I just finished shoveling about 4 inches of fairly heavy snow and feel almost fine

i took a muscle relaxer, which I assume helped
but I’m pretty sure there’s nothing structural or injury wise ailing me
i just totally fucking nuts

@manbearpig how are you doing? And have you at least started the book?

 

[manbearpig]

I have not started the book (I thought it was always referred to as the fucking book?).

pretty laid up thanks to Covid. Have been stretching a little, I think improvement has been primarily from the prolonged rest I’m getting. So I guess that’s a silver lining to to the COVID.

 

[Random Guy]

damn
feel better
i hope you’ve got someone else to shovel. I heard the Long Island sound is getting dumped on

 

[Autoprax]

A lot of time back pain comes from the nervous system detecting danger

 

[Random Guy]

A lot of time back pain comes from the nervous system detecting danger

That doesn’t seem to support evolution
hey caveman, t-Rex is coming to get uou
lets make your back spasm so you can’t run and scream in pain for no apparent reason

seems like a poor design

 

[Autoprax]

That doesn’t seem to support evolution
hey caveman, t-Rex is coming to get uou
lets make your back spasm so you can’t run and scream in pain for no apparent reason

seems like a poor design

There is fight, flight and freeze response to danger.

Your nervous system gets to decide.

In that situation it would likely choose flight.

In a situation like bending over unbraced it might choose to spasm: freeze. It's positions of the body that don't feel safe

You should get my book

jk.

 

[encladd]

I actually tried it. I think it will be a good warm up for my bodyweight and barbell strength work outs. It feels good after you do it. I have to have the video on. I don't think I could remember all the prompts. Maybe if I keep doing it.

I do this every day, as well. Either as a warm up or for maintenance on the days I don't lift. It's especially helpful recovering from back strains when transitioning back to a barbell. Still, it's no substitute for a proper dead lift.

 

[grg]

Saw surgeon yesterday to talk about surgery and sadly I am not a candidate for disk replacement. Facets are f^cked as well. 5-7 years out in the USA. Recommended PRP.

Crazy to be sad I cant get back surgery

 

[slipped_disc]

Has anyone experimented with Knees Over Toes Guy exercises for the back? He cycles through a bunch of them rapid fire here:

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[One-Off]

Has anyone experimented with Knees Over Toes Guy exercises for the back? He cycles through a bunch of them rapid fire here:

Instagram

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I do split squats, just started doing Jefferson curls, YTWLs (dumbbell reverse fly), skull crushers… just a few I glimpsed.

In spite of all I do, I still get a sore lower back after surfing (as well as very sore neck and shoulder…only the left, the right is fine). I’m just kind of resigned to it. Like that saying, growing old isn’t for pussies.

 

[Swallow Tail]

PT = stretches you can find on the internet so IMO a waste of time and $

for temporary possibly even placebo leves of pain relief get a tens unit. ice for 15/heat for 15. then tens unti for 20 minutes. then just work on your posture, stretch your hips and hammies thats all you can really do.

ive been to amilllion back doctors at this point - they all say there is nothing wrong with my back but these are the things that help me manage it.

funnily enough never bothers me when surfing - only goes out and hurts when im doing stupid sh!t.

PT is a lot more than “stretching” … there’s plenty a crap PTs out there, but the good ones are worth their weight in gold.

Example: I broke my elbow in multiple places about 10 yrs ago. Took a very long time to heal - I ended up w a LOT muscle atrophy and loss of range of motion. Without physical therapy I’d have been fucked. YT vids would have been about as useful as rubbing peanut butter on my elbow.

Example 2: replaced cervical discs and shoulder muscle atrophy, example 3: LB and hip issues.

Same deal PT was a game changer for those. NO stretching involved


I’d stay away from “big box” operations, you want a small outfit, like a sole practitioner, that’s vested in why they’re doing

 

[CutnSnip]

PT is a lot more than “stretching” … there’s plenty a crap PTs out there, but the good ones are worth their weight in gold.

Example: I broke my elbow in multiple places about 10 yrs ago. Took a very long time to heal - I ended up w a LOT muscle atrophy and loss of range of motion. Without physical therapy I’d have been fucked. YT vids would have been about as useful as rubbing peanut butter on my elbow.

Example 2: replaced cervical discs and shoulder muscle atrophy, example 3: LB and hip issues.

Same deal PT was a game changer for those. NO stretching involved


I’d stay away from “big box” operations, you want a small outfit, like a sole practitioner, that’s vested in why they’re doing

im stocked its worked for you!

 

[One-Off]

PT is a lot more than “stretching” … there’s plenty a crap PTs out there, but the good ones are worth their weight in gold.

Example: I broke my elbow in multiple places about 10 yrs ago. Took a very long time to heal - I ended up w a LOT muscle atrophy and loss of range of motion. Without physical therapy I’d have been fucked. YT vids would have been about as useful as rubbing peanut butter on my elbow.

Example 2: replaced cervical discs and shoulder muscle atrophy, example 3: LB and hip issues.

Same deal PT was a game changer for those. NO stretching involved


I’d stay away from “big box” operations, you want a small outfit, like a sole practitioner, that’s vested in why they’re doing

What did the PT do? I'm assuming targeted exercises. Did they prescribe a comprehensive preventative training regimen for after you regained ROM and some strength?