left vs. right journalism

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I was just wondering which way mainstream media outlets lean?

I know FOX is right and NBC leans left. How about others? ABC? CBS?

How about Time, Newsweek, etc, etc? LA Times? US News?

Radio stations? I know KABC is right and KPFK left. Others?

I'd like to get a balance of info, hear both sides. Not extremism but reasoned factual reporting from both sides.
 

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you won't get factual reporting from any of them...

I usually do cnn, drudge, foxnews and average it out.
 

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The best news program on TV is PBS's Newshour with Jim Lehrer. No screaming, no baiting, both sides get to make their point. The analysis with Shields and Brooks is always good.

Of course anything left of Faux News is part of the Liberal Media that hates America but I watch it anyway...

Drudge is not news, btw.
 

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The best news program on TV is PBS's Newshour with Jim Lehrer. No screaming, no baiting, both sides get to make their point. The analysis with Shields and Brooks is always good.

Of course anything left of Faux News is part of the Liberal Media that hates America but I watch it anyway...

Drudge is not news, btw.
I'm of the opinion that the whole "liberal mainstream media" business is the right's attempt to totally marginalize a truly left wing voice which in comparison to mainstream (middle of the road) becomes "radical" and thus easily dismissed.
 

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I used to listen to both sides - Fox News/Drudge and NY Times/Cnn, but lately I've been listening to NPR, and they actually cling to journalism ethics. They ask hard questions, don't bait either side, and stick to the issues. Often they have a campaign strategist from each side and each gets equal billing and equal chance to make their point. Good stuff if you are trying to be informed.
 

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blakestah is on target with the NPR thing. And CNN seems a little more balanced today than they did a year ago. Internet I do Drudge and Google News.

I avoid FOX News like the plague. And I'm a conservative, if that says anything.
 

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Both sides of aisle rip MSNBC
Keith Olbermann also criticized at media luncheon

By Paul Bond

Oct 27, 2008, 08:26 PM ET

Updated: Oct 28, 2008, 02:54 PM ET
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In a room full of television industry executives, no one seemed inclined to defend MSNBC on Monday for what some were calling its lopsidedly liberal coverage of the presidential election.

The cable news channel is "completely out of control," said writer-producer Linda Bloodworth-Thomason, a self-proclaimed liberal Democrat.

She added that she would prefer a lunch date with right-leaning Fox News star Sean Hannity over left-leaning MSNBC star Keith Olbermann.

Olbermann was criticized by many who attended Monday's luncheon sponsored by the Caucus for Producers, Writers & Directors at the Beverly Hills Hotel. The event was dubbed "Hollywood, America and Election '08."

Bloodworth-Thomason and others seemed especially critical of the way MSNBC -- and other media -- has attacked Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin while demeaning her supporters.

"We should stop the demonizing," she said, adding that Democrats have been worse than Republicans as far as personal attacks on candidates are concerned. "It diminishes us," she said of her fellow Democrats. She stressed, though, that it's Palin's small-town American roots she wishes to defend and not her politics or policies.

Bloodworth-Thomason even suggested a defense of Palin and her supporters should be written into TV programming, just as she went out of her way to portray Southern women as smart in her hit TV show "Designing Women."

Attendee Michael Reagan, the radio talk-show host and son of President Ronald Reagan, said he no longer will appear as a guest on MSNBC because "I actually get death threats."

"I'll stop sending them," joked Larry Gelbart, the writer, producer and director best known for the "M*A*S*H" television series and such movie screenplays as "Tootsie" and "Oh, God!"

Pollster Frank Luntz, a regular guest on the Fox News, joked that MSNBC is "the only network with more letters in its name than viewers."

On a more serious note, Luntz said it's a problem that the electorate chooses to watch news programs not for information but to confirm already-held beliefs, and that applies to viewers of CNN and Fox News as well.

Luntz predicted a Barack Obama victory and said that one of the many reasons the Democrats have been more effective with their message is because, while Republicans dominate talk radio, Democrats have begun to dominate the Internet.

"I'd rather have the Internet," he said.

Obama also gets credit because he's a better communicator than past Democrats, Luntz said, comparing the previous Democratic presidential nominee, John Kerry, to one of those trees that threw apples at Dorothy in "The Wizard of Oz."

Actress Patricia Heaton noted that Hollywood workers too often just assume everyone they work with is a like-minded liberal. When those around her belittle John McCain or Palin, she politely reminds them that she's a Republican.

"That's what you have to do in our town," she said.

Actor Beau Bridges lamented that there is "too much entertainment" in elections nowadays. "Just put 'em in a room -- like we are now -- and let 'em talk about the issues," he said.

Some of the most spirited debate came from the panel's moderator, outspoken conservative Lionel Chetwynd. The writer, director and producer passionately defended the Iraq War and Palin, whom he called "the ideal Jeffersonian political figure."

Chetwynd's performance prompted Gelbart to joke that Chetwynd was the most "immoderate moderator" he had ever seen.

"It's a liberal organization," Chetwynd said of the Caucus. "But I'm trying."
Both sides of aisle rip MSNBC
Keith Olbermann also criticized at media luncheon

By Paul Bond

Oct 27, 2008, 08:26 PM ET

Updated: Oct 28, 2008, 02:54 PM ET
Related
More 2008 election coverage
In a room full of television industry executives, no one seemed inclined to defend MSNBC on Monday for what some were calling its lopsidedly liberal coverage of the presidential election.

The cable news channel is "completely out of control," said writer-producer Linda Bloodworth-Thomason, a self-proclaimed liberal Democrat.

She added that she would prefer a lunch date with right-leaning Fox News star Sean Hannity over left-leaning MSNBC star Keith Olbermann.

Olbermann was criticized by many who attended Monday's luncheon sponsored by the Caucus for Producers, Writers & Directors at the Beverly Hills Hotel. The event was dubbed "Hollywood, America and Election '08."

Bloodworth-Thomason and others seemed especially critical of the way MSNBC -- and other media -- has attacked Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin while demeaning her supporters.

"We should stop the demonizing," she said, adding that Democrats have been worse than Republicans as far as personal attacks on candidates are concerned. "It diminishes us," she said of her fellow Democrats. She stressed, though, that it's Palin's small-town American roots she wishes to defend and not her politics or policies.

Bloodworth-Thomason even suggested a defense of Palin and her supporters should be written into TV programming, just as she went out of her way to portray Southern women as smart in her hit TV show "Designing Women."

Attendee Michael Reagan, the radio talk-show host and son of President Ronald Reagan, said he no longer will appear as a guest on MSNBC because "I actually get death threats."

"I'll stop sending them," joked Larry Gelbart, the writer, producer and director best known for the "M*A*S*H" television series and such movie screenplays as "Tootsie" and "Oh, God!"

Pollster Frank Luntz, a regular guest on the Fox News, joked that MSNBC is "the only network with more letters in its name than viewers."

On a more serious note, Luntz said it's a problem that the electorate chooses to watch news programs not for information but to confirm already-held beliefs, and that applies to viewers of CNN and Fox News as well.

Luntz predicted a Barack Obama victory and said that one of the many reasons the Democrats have been more effective with their message is because, while Republicans dominate talk radio, Democrats have begun to dominate the Internet.

"I'd rather have the Internet," he said.

Obama also gets credit because he's a better communicator than past Democrats, Luntz said, comparing the previous Democratic presidential nominee, John Kerry, to one of those trees that threw apples at Dorothy in "The Wizard of Oz."

Actress Patricia Heaton noted that Hollywood workers too often just assume everyone they work with is a like-minded liberal. When those around her belittle John McCain or Palin, she politely reminds them that she's a Republican.

"That's what you have to do in our town," she said.

Actor Beau Bridges lamented that there is "too much entertainment" in elections nowadays. "Just put 'em in a room -- like we are now -- and let 'em talk about the issues," he said.

Some of the most spirited debate came from the panel's moderator, outspoken conservative Lionel Chetwynd. The writer, director and producer passionately defended the Iraq War and Palin, whom he called "the ideal Jeffersonian political figure."

Chetwynd's performance prompted Gelbart to joke that Chetwynd was the most "immoderate moderator" he had ever seen.

"It's a liberal organization," Chetwynd said of the Caucus. "But I'm trying."
 

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If i'm understanding you correctly you are saying there is right wing media (represents the right) and Leftwind media (represents the center). If that's true I agree. All one has to do is look at who owns the media and in reality it's the richest corporations in the world. Mainstream media represents big business and thus are rarely truely critical of said business.

NPR is some one public but if you notice they are sponsors by companies like Cheveron. So you tell me. Is this really unbiased media?

The best news program on TV is PBS's Newshour with Jim Lehrer. No screaming, no baiting, both sides get to make their point. The analysis with Shields and Brooks is always good.

Of course anything left of Faux News is part of the Liberal Media that hates America but I watch it anyway...

Drudge is not news, btw.
I'm of the opinion that the whole "liberal mainstream media" business is the right's attempt to totally marginalize a truly left wing voice which in comparison to mainstream (middle of the road) becomes "radical" and thus easily dismissed.
 

FecalFace

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I used to listen to both sides - Fox News/Drudge and NY Times/Cnn, but lately I've been listening to NPR, and they actually cling to journalism ethics. They ask hard questions, don't bait either side, and stick to the issues. Often they have a campaign strategist from each side and each gets equal billing and equal chance to make their point. Good stuff if you are trying to be informed.
Exactly. NPR is the ONLY news source.

The rest is 95% EDITORIAL and 5% news.

It's still good to watch every now and then for a laugh. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/foreheadslap.gif" alt="" />

Question everything.
 

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Best source of info: BBC and ny times. Concerning the NYtimes, all you fox watchers think it's the pinko commie Ted Kennedy , tax the crap out of everyone to feed the poor newspaper. I've been reading it for years and it leans a LITTLE left but it is a wonderful paper. If you really want to understand a topic, read about it in the NYtimes and you will tell immediately it was written by multiple people who (shockingly) actually know a little about the topic they are writing about. I read the times in the morning and then go to the gym where they have Fox on and it can sometimes be funny hearing Fox talk about a subject. They sound like a bunch of old guys giving strong opinions about a topic they don't know anything about. four stars in my opinion for the NY Times. It does lean a little left but not so much that an educated reader can't recognize and get around their intrinsic bias.