Yep I get that. I started out thinking of like a mid length fun gun, but seeing all these models I could just upsize anyone of them and get what I am looking for,
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Idea for a EC Winter Barrel Board
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grab a chem before prices go up. You don't need to go too oversized. nThere's more volume packed in already, so go easy.
Call Willy. He'll dial you in.
Or go to Barewires
Sub $700 is a deal these days
Picked one up a couple weeks ago. Hoping to get it out in some proper conditions soon.
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Looking for similar. Basically want a step up egg. Have a 6'0 Ghost. Getting too old to paddle that thing in full 5 mil/boots/gloves/hood with the molasses feeling of being in some much rubber.
Personally I'm not a fan of oversizing short boards. Want something more glidey and easier to paddle. You might look at the Maurice Cole twin pin. Had one for a bit and it worked well in bigger surf. Mine was 6'7 and felt a little long when it got more hollow and crunchy but it worked pretty well, been kinda regrettting selling it now that I'm in full winter gear. One thing I didn't like was the twin fin had a little too much projection rather than the pivot of a single or tri. Rawson also has some single fins that look interesting as well as the Sniper and Sniper gun.
Personally I'm not a fan of oversizing short boards. Want something more glidey and easier to paddle. You might look at the Maurice Cole twin pin. Had one for a bit and it worked well in bigger surf. Mine was 6'7 and felt a little long when it got more hollow and crunchy but it worked pretty well, been kinda regrettting selling it now that I'm in full winter gear. One thing I didn't like was the twin fin had a little too much projection rather than the pivot of a single or tri. Rawson also has some single fins that look interesting as well as the Sniper and Sniper gun.
I’ve been thinking about experimenting with a wider nosed step up. Could be good, but also could be terrible in our heavy offshores.
Campbell Bros Bonzer Egg makes for a pretty sweet step up. It has a deceptively high performance rocker and tucked rails that extend pretty far up the length of the board. Very forgiving and flowy but you can still rip a turn and it will hold in the juicy stuff.
A lot depends on the intended waves the OP is hoping to attack. Certain waves in his region really don't allow for any sort of early glide in style of take off........they pretty much require a huck it under the lip or behind the peak knifing approach. The dilemma is that an oversized board becomes a hinderance to this approach. Many of the Northern NJ beach breaks are very similar to what you'll see in Brett Barley's videos from the Outer Banks in terms of the equipment and take off approach. The equipment you see Brett and others who appear in those videos use would be a good guide.
I have a Ledge @ 7'2 for overhead hunting barrels. And I'm errrrrr... I'd rather be on my single 6'7 Parmy or 7'10 Andrienni* .
The Ledge is predictable and solid and fast but a little awkward, maybe it's the size, I wanna be way up on it but when I wanna turn I have to go way back and it's a struggle to get back far enough. My other WPF boards this does not happen.
For the $$ of the Ledge compared to others, I would say no. Rawson B2 is so tempting or A Bonzer 5 was great in the past.
*especially if barrels are all that's available.
And taking off under the lip is a no go at my age.
The Ledge is predictable and solid and fast but a little awkward, maybe it's the size, I wanna be way up on it but when I wanna turn I have to go way back and it's a struggle to get back far enough. My other WPF boards this does not happen.
For the $$ of the Ledge compared to others, I would say no. Rawson B2 is so tempting or A Bonzer 5 was great in the past.
*especially if barrels are all that's available.
And taking off under the lip is a no go at my age.
I'd rather not.......
For local reference check out Hammer.
As your getting to be a geezer I will provide you with these images for reference. Back January of 2018 I was shooting and a guy in his mid 60s who I've never seen before or since showed up at the end of my street. The guy clearly had it dialed. His board was a Dick Brewer by Surftech. I don't think they make this board anymore. Based on the same outline as the board below with a lot of flip in the nose:
Blackbird is a great board but it's not my favorite for barrels. Feels like it's hard to keep the nose out of trouble on super steep drops. It's fine when there is an easy early entry option but where I surf there rarely is.
Groms suggested the 77+ which is a very good barrel board for a high level surfer who is comfortable taking off under the ledge. It is very rockered and thinly foiled and basically offers zero cheat factor so I highly recommend against it for the OP.
The Super Pigdog was a great barrel board. I got an oversized one (6-6 Pigdog Pro, 35L) and it worked very well for it's intended purpose. Compared to the Ghost it paddled and caught waves better and had a more stable, easy ride. It would get into waves a bit earlier, making the setup so much easier, but it also handled late drops no problem. It was a very confidence inspiring board for tubes. I rode it as a quad. It did not feel good in anything other than barrels. Too little outline and rocker curve made it hard to turn. Unfortunately I think Super is no more and I don't see any of the bigger sizes left in stock anywhere.
Chemzenagain has always looked sick to me and if I had more consistent access to tubes I would get one. Rawson Sniper maybe worth a look? I surfed with an older guy in some tubing waves on my recent trip and he was doing great on his. He also rode it well in non tubing waves. Quad.
Groms suggested the 77+ which is a very good barrel board for a high level surfer who is comfortable taking off under the ledge. It is very rockered and thinly foiled and basically offers zero cheat factor so I highly recommend against it for the OP.
The Super Pigdog was a great barrel board. I got an oversized one (6-6 Pigdog Pro, 35L) and it worked very well for it's intended purpose. Compared to the Ghost it paddled and caught waves better and had a more stable, easy ride. It would get into waves a bit earlier, making the setup so much easier, but it also handled late drops no problem. It was a very confidence inspiring board for tubes. I rode it as a quad. It did not feel good in anything other than barrels. Too little outline and rocker curve made it hard to turn. Unfortunately I think Super is no more and I don't see any of the bigger sizes left in stock anywhere.
Chemzenagain has always looked sick to me and if I had more consistent access to tubes I would get one. Rawson Sniper maybe worth a look? I surfed with an older guy in some tubing waves on my recent trip and he was doing great on his. He also rode it well in non tubing waves. Quad.
I had a PigDog for a bit. It did paddle well but it didn't want to turn. The Ghost is better in every way for that style of board in my opinion. The Pig Dog might paddle a bit better, but Ghost is magic in making drops. I'm still sort of amazed that a board concieved of for one of the best surfers in the world still works for decidely average surfers like myself. Hats off to Pyzel.
Something like the Rawson Sniper looks pretty good. You want something with glide but not too long that doesn't feel like a shortboard with too much foam. Really, it just sucks getting old and surfing freezing cold beach breaks with howling offshore winds. In all the rubber you're just a half step slower and it's hard for anything to make up for that. The magic bullet is youth and/or less wetsuit.
Something like the Rawson Sniper looks pretty good. You want something with glide but not too long that doesn't feel like a shortboard with too much foam. Really, it just sucks getting old and surfing freezing cold beach breaks with howling offshore winds. In all the rubber you're just a half step slower and it's hard for anything to make up for that. The magic bullet is youth and/or less wetsuit.
Afraid you might be right, gonna go down swinging though.
Russ Short has a wide, super fat nose. Sucks to duck dive. It's good at plowing through chop, but not the best at taking off in chop and stiff offshores/devil wind. That's my experience.Bonzer 5 or 3 maybe 2 fin of your choice (Russ Short, modern, bumblebee, semi gun) shaped by Malcom Campbell
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Agreed its not the most turn friendly board unless on a big open wally point break, then you can certainly find a carvey flow. But for east coast---gets in early, solid as a dock in the barrel, drives fast as fug down the line, and kick out. Maybe a big cutty but it's definitely not meant to turn anything like a shorty.
I think the album description for the ledge is spot on and does feel about a ft bigger than it is. I feel like a 7'2 would be massive. My 6'5 I wish I went a little shorter but wave count has been excessive lately
Edit: also agree albums are wayyyy overpriced. Xtr would be the only route I'd go if i got another. I'd still steer you towards Scott at Natural Art as he's been making similar shapes for years, has the rocker dialed for steep n deep east coast waves, and you can get whatever you want with all the bells and whistles. A little hard to get up with sometimes though
I’d go custom w a shaper that’s familiar w such things/makes them on the regular.
plenty o chargers in their 50s n 60s around here that ride such things.