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How much more will your Big Mac cost if we raise the minimum wage?
- Thread starter hal9000
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You have to "listen"?
Who's forcing you?
You poor thing, how will you survive?
With every post you prove that you are a petty cünt.
LOL, I never claimed any kind of victim status. I'm also a good listener. Hard to believe, I know. I like to spend time with people I care about, even if they are going through tough times. However if they keep complaining to me about the same problems while doing nothing to mitigate them, then after a certain amount of time I'm going to give them an honest reply.
Thankfully the people I hang out with nowadays have their personal lives together. And yes, I can't stand people who give unsolicited advice or ask you how much you spent on something etc etc. But if I were to complain about being broke while out spending money on $7 pints of beer and someone were to call me out on it, they'd be perfectly in the right to do so.
The broader point is don't complain about your issues and then claim "none of your business!" when people point out the flaws in your behavior and mentality. Glass houses!
Strawman was not intended. Anyone can spend on what they want, and it's none of your business. And you know this is a typical argument about welfare and poor people. And I'm willing to bet serious money that what welfare recipients spend money on is a concern of yours.I wasn't talking about welfare, but thanks for the strawman
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so in summary, you’ve turned a post about raising minimum wage into a claim that people on welfare complain too much and shouldn‘t be allowed to buy beer.
I see.
Why do you care what people's priorities are?
It's absolutely none of your business.
They do the work, you pay them a living wage.
All the things you listed are part of living, why would you want the standard of living in the US to be so shitty that people can work full time and still live on the poverty line?
Pettiness, envy, what is it with you people?
And if you can't afford to pay people a minimum wage, don't employ them.
I want many things I can't afford and I don't steal them.
we musn’t question the current iteration of capitalism. It’s unpatriotic.
You sound like a good employer for paying that much, cheers.
It's still never any of your business what your employees spend money on, ever.
The problem is what someone is worth ought to be enough to afford to get by. if someone is working full time (40 hrs, let's use) they should be able to afford a place to live, food, phone, no matter where they live.
Cell phones are necessary for many, a lot of people these days don't have computers in their homes, it's all done on phones. I know a couple people in their 20s, successful people, who do not have computers in their homes/regular access to computers, because they use smart phones for everything electronic.
Today, electronic communication is as necessary as having a land line was 20 years ago.
Some of you are literally saying that anyone on any financial assistance of any kind does not deserve the same freedoms that you and I have, but rather, deserve to be under surveillance.
When someone (government) is FORCING me to pay someone above market value because “they can’t afford rent” then it is my goddamn business what they’re paying for instead of rent.
But it’s all academic anyway because since California has the MW set where it is that theoretical employee of mine remains unemployed.
How’s $0 an hour for a “living wage”?
Derp.
Here’s the deal (again). At $10 an hour it’s worth the RISK for me to hire a person with little to no experience. Within about a year that person will be able to work on their own at around $30 an hour plus benefits.
Or they can get that “other job” flipping burgers for $15 an hour and within a year they’ll be making $15.75 an hour.
Or more realistically that person with no experience or education and maybe did time or fought in Iraq an has some ptsd issues (these are the type I hire) never gets a job.
$15 an minimum wage hurts poor people the most.
Employers are not just going to eat that cost.
They aren’t.
Either people get laid off or prices go up (which hurts the poor the most) or both.
This isn’t a controversial fact.
Even former CA governor Jerry Brown said (when he was signing into law a MW increase) the “it doesn’t make economic sense” but it’s makes people feel good (the people who pass these laws) about themselves.
A: “Hey man, I need a raise because I can’t make rent.”
B: “Didn’t you just buy a new tv and Xbox?”
A: “it’s none of your business what I buy.”
B: “I guess you getting evicted is none of my business either.”
B: “Didn’t you just buy a new tv and Xbox?”
A: “it’s none of your business what I buy.”
B: “I guess you getting evicted is none of my business either.”
Chill Farakhan. I never mentioned financial assistance or people on welfare- you did. I'm not getting up in anyone's personal finances and telling them what to do. Me pointing out the irony of people complaining about how broke they are when you can visibly see where they are wastefully spending money in a broad societal context is not the same thing, and that is true across all social classes. The guy with a 4 bedroom house that makes six-figures yet has 5-6 figures worth of credit card debt and a country club membership is not much different than the neglectful parent that doesn't adequately feed their kids yet smokes 2 packs a day. Priorities.
Like I said, the only situation where I would say something is if someone owed me money and neglected to pay me back for an excessive period of time yet somehow still had money for frivolties. FWIW, I've never liked lending money and haven't done so for a while, so it's not really applicable.
I need money survive now, not in a year. So faced with expenses today, $15/hr now sounds better if it will keep me off welfare.
If I take your $10 I'll need some government financial assistance until that year when I prove myself to you. Do I deserve to be under surveillance for that year?