Hawaii- Done

[Mr Doof]

While I get that wild animal mothers take their protecting job seriously, are monk seals typically aggressive?

Monk seal attacks swimmer

(video at link...apparently the swimmer got too close to baby monk seal)

 

[Kaido]

My neighbor spear fishes often. Said he had one monk seal get very aggressive, coming right at him. No physical attack though. Still sounded pretty nuts.

 

[hammies]

IDK about monk seals but sea lions can be aggressive AF.

 

[Mr Doof]

Yeah, my experience is with sea lions, and have had them bump my board a few times and bite/tug on leash. Am wondering if monk seals are like this.

 

[oneula]

I've lived in Seattle/Washington for almost two decades 70's-80's and got out just before the mass migration and change from Weyerhaeuser and Boeing to Microsoft and Amazon. The same for downtown Portland (90's). Was in portland when they had the old Mother Gert signs telling californians to stay out of Oregon in particular, Wells Fargo. Now both places are totally shot. They used to be bastions of conservative working class families, not anymore. Just out of control shtholes for the homeless and elites who try and avoid them.

Same thing has been taking over in LA, San Diego and Waikiki.

Almost everything the masses here need to survive needs to be shipped or flown in including the tourists and the fuel that powers the so called clean power people think they are using with their electric cars and mobile brains. Electricity and our dependency on it is modern society's drug of choice. Ever sit in an airport terminal and look at people running around for an outlet like an addict looking for a fix? Or people fighting for a parking space with a charger for their hybrid?

The plantations were the start of the mercantilism of this place but at least they generated their own power and took care of their workers with housing and the ability to advance. Most of those ethnic populations are pretty much running the place these days but the almighty need for wealth and prosperity at the sacrifice of everyone else except those in your immediately bubble is escalating the destruction of what ever land and water resources we have left.

All to the point where it will become unlivable and people will have to mass migrate like they have been doing for decades for economic not environmental reasons. People talk a good story, but every year this place gets worse and worse to either maintain or plant your family roots here for the next thousand years. We've lost the ability for the long view here and as such it will only get worse until there's no other choice but to leave to exist. Glad I don't have that much to witness before I go. But until then I will always hope for the best and do what I can to try and swim up current against this tidal wave of change.

 

[hammies]

I've lived in Seattle/Washington for almost two decades 70's-80's and got out just before the mass migration and change from Weyerhaeuser and Boeing to Microsoft and Amazon. The same for downtown Portland (90's). Was in portland when they had the old Mother Gert signs telling californians to stay out of Oregon in particular, Wells Fargo. Now both places are totally shot. They used to be bastions of conservative working class families, not anymore. Just out of control shtholes for the homeless and elites who try and avoid them.

Same thing has been taking over in LA, San Diego and Waikiki.

Almost everything the masses here need to survive needs to be shipped or flown in including the tourists and the fuel that powers the so called clean power people think they are using with their electric cars and mobile brains. Electricity and our dependency on it is modern society's drug of choice. Ever sit in an airport terminal and look at people running around for an outlet like an addict looking for a fix? Or people fighting for a parking space with a charger for their hybrid?

The plantations were the start of the mercantilism of this place but at least they generated their own power and took care of their workers with housing and the ability to advance. Most of those ethnic populations are pretty much running the place these days but the almighty need for wealth and prosperity at the sacrifice of everyone else except those in your immediately bubble is escalating the destruction of what ever land and water resources we have left.

All to the point where it will become unlivable and people will have to mass migrate like they have been doing for decades for economic not environmental reasons. People talk a good story, but every year this place gets worse and worse to either maintain or plant your family roots here for the next thousand years. We've lost the ability for the long view here and as such it will only get worse until there's no other choice but to leave to exist. Glad I don't have that much to witness before I go. But until then I will always hope for the best and do what I can to try and swim up current against this tidal wave of change.

Don't worry Oneula, in 50 years there will be old farts will be talking story about how great everything was back in the 2020's. Such is life, eh?

 

[averagejoe]

I've lived in Seattle/Washington for almost two decades 70's-80's and got out just before the mass migration and change from Weyerhaeuser and Boeing to Microsoft and Amazon. The same for downtown Portland (90's). Was in portland when they had the old Mother Gert signs telling californians to stay out of Oregon in particular, Wells Fargo. Now both places are totally shot. They used to be bastions of conservative working class families, not anymore. Just out of control shtholes for the homeless and elites who try and avoid them.

Same thing has been taking over in LA, San Diego and Waikiki.

Almost everything the masses here need to survive needs to be shipped or flown in including the tourists and the fuel that powers the so called clean power people think they are using with their electric cars and mobile brains. Electricity and our dependency on it is modern society's drug of choice. Ever sit in an airport terminal and look at people running around for an outlet like an addict looking for a fix? Or people fighting for a parking space with a charger for their hybrid?

The plantations were the start of the mercantilism of this place but at least they generated their own power and took care of their workers with housing and the ability to advance. Most of those ethnic populations are pretty much running the place these days but the almighty need for wealth and prosperity at the sacrifice of everyone else except those in your immediately bubble is escalating the destruction of what ever land and water resources we have left.

All to the point where it will become unlivable and people will have to mass migrate like they have been doing for decades for economic not environmental reasons. People talk a good story, but every year this place gets worse and worse to either maintain or plant your family roots here for the next thousand years. We've lost the ability for the long view here and as such it will only get worse until there's no other choice but to leave to exist. Glad I don't have that much to witness before I go. But until then I will always hope for the best and do what I can to try and swim up current against this tidal wave of change.

Same thing has happened to santa cruz. Bummer.

 

[youcantbeserious]

High school surf team comp at Sandy’s today, Kahuku vs Waianae, Kahuku came out on top but lots of aloha and sportsmanship and good vibes by all

Football game was a little more cutthroat haha

 

[hammies]

The slow degradation of over tourism and real estate investment that happens to anywhere nice is a sad fact of 21st century life. I don't think it can be stopped, maybe just slowed down at best. But the natural and sometimes human beauty that makes places nice remains, you just have to seek it wisely.

 

[estreet]

The plantations were the start of the mercantilism of this place but at least they generated their own power and took care of their workers with housing and the ability to advance.

Wow, that's a rather rosy look at history. The environmental impact of deforestation and waste products alone must have devastated local ecosystems. Ecosystems that will never return.

The Big Five took control of the Hawaiian economy including banking, warehousing, shipping, and importing. This control of commodity distribution kept Hawaiians burdened under high prices and toiling under a diminished quality of life. These businessmen had perfected the double-edged sword of a wage-earning labor force dependent upon plantation goods and services. They also worked hard to maintain a hierarchical caste system that prevented worker organization and divided the camps based on ethnic identity.

Indentured servitude is only a small step above slavery.

And why shouldn't the Big Five have taken advantage of these people, nothing was preventing them from doing so. Contrary to popular conservative belief, big business does NOT conduct itself responsibly.

And all this not to mention the devastating impact that refined sugar has on human health.

 

[JSC]

Contrary to popular conservative belief, big business does NOT conduct itself responsibly.

At the time, Hawaii was a collection of very distant islands that produced nothing of value like gold or oil, yet were strategic due to their location, the only island group in the vast, empty expanse of the North Pacific Ocean.

If businessmen were going to risk their capital in a remote place on agricultural endeavours with no guarantee of profit, they were going to do so under a system which would give them the best chance at making a profit.

Hence the plantation system, that was based on southern USA plantations and would have used slaves if slavery was legal - it wasn't, so they used the next best alternative; contract indentured labor.

 

[oneula]

if you can't see the "indentured labor" status of the vast workforce currently supporting the tourism machine, then that's the problem. They are are just one level above what might be termed slavery, no different than those who worked for the plantations exception there's no food or housing provided. Farms, restaurants, construction, and hotels here import like all the other resources others when needed from mexico, south america, indonesia, micronesia, korea and now china sometimes as actual slave labor (withholding papers) when they can't get actual locals to fill the positions.

How many neighborhood giant home construction sites here have you been too where the workers can only speak chinese and chain smoke? All the local bruddahs are working on the rail where the golden goose laid her egg. And the unions have been no real help except to the union officials. That's why government and DOD work here is so big. They at least pay a living wage with COLA.

It all doesn't matter anyway I only have another 10-20 years before I'll check out of here for good. Those that live on as with everything will reap what they sow.
In the end, the only people left to blame for anything with be yourself.

live pono
die pono
that's all one can do

 

[SurfFuerteventura]

Hawaii sounds to me, never having had the pleasure to visit before, to be suffering from a very similar ill that asails the Canary Islands at present. Both they're political and ruling class are akin to a five star restaurant that allows patrons in who wouldn't be let into a truck stop hoe house bar in Barstow.

 

[vanrysss]

 

[Kento]

OK, who took a rock?

 

[racer1]

god damn video contest on top of actual physical contests. What else can we add? An audio contest? Submit sounds of rides? A virtual reality decentralized web3 contest? A mixed media art contest for all three spots?

we just need more contest “for the local kids.”

 

[oneula]

a well produced series called Holoholo

Holoholo

Roots

Soul

Kuleana

Mana'o

Malama

Legacy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7JRhqgorRE&t=109s


Funnier Series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXI2jAdSzlk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow1n7MzOeWI

 

[LelandCuz]

Board swap and shaping demo at JAWS shop in Lahaina. It was a nice little gathering of the Lahaina surf community. Lots of vintage boards in great shape for cheap but I don't have the space for them.

 

[~rwright~]

i some~timez wonder of how Thee World works:
Abigail Kinoiki Kekaulike Kawānanakoa, Hawaii's so-called "last princess", has passed away aged 96.
interestin' story with some old history,
you of Hawaii got any thoughtz?

p/s ~ edit add-in:
at 2:57 am Los Angeles time,
i am soooo caffeinated, ain't gonna fall asleep before Thee Sun arises,
so i'm~a readin' of what'z happenin' 'Round The World!
The comments on this linked article, above,
are well, en~lightin,
to say the least...

 

[kelly7873]

No salad for me this week.