Has WW3 Started yet?

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lots of words, very little fact

Surfdog word ratio rule in full effect
 

Surfdog

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You keep saying that but you have nothing to support it with. That's funny.

Worst case scenario, Trump could have renegotiated the deal if he didn't like it.

He is, after all, the author of the Art Of The Deal.

Anything would be better (and cheaper) than what we have now.
Yesterday 4PM on the "Baghdad airstrike" post......

I posted, you ghosted.
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FF, you're either lying on purpose (more likely), or totally ignorant of Iran's recent agenda publicly released to the world.....

"On March 21, 2015, Iran's Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei backed and shouted the phrase 'Death to America' while addressing a public gathering in Iran, during the holiday of Nowruz, the Persian New Year.

(In July of 2015, Obama was sad and depressed they were yelling that at HIM, so he brokered/appeased the "nuclear deal" that had no teeth.)

Here's a NBC report in 2016, well AFTER the "glorious, historical nuclear deal" Obama brokered......

"TEHRAN, Iran — If you thought anti-American sentiment in Iran had waned after the nuclear deal and the lifting of sanctions, you could be wrong.

Tens of thousands of Iranians marched in Tehran’s Azadi Square Thursday, chanting “Death to America and Israel” and waving anti-Western placards on the 37th anniversary of the country’s 1979 Islamic revolution."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/iran-marks-revolution-death-america-chants-n516406

On June 23, 2017, during Quds Day, protestors chanted “Death to America” and “Death to Israel”.[25] On April 25, 2018, Iran announces that the “Death to America” emoji would be included in the messaging app.:devilish::ROFLMAO:[26]

On May 9, 2018, an American flag was burned in the Iranian Parliament amidst chants of 'Death to America' after President Donald Trump withdrew from the nuclear deal with Iran.[27] On November 4, 2018, Louis Farrakhan, the leader of the religious group Nation of Islam, led a “Death to America” chant during a solidarity trip to Iran, ahead of sanctions expected to be imposed by the Trump administration."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_to_America

We didn't withdraw from the lame-ass Iran Nuclear Deal until May 2018. Plenty of "Death to America" chanting during Obama's last days, and into Trump's early days in office, nuke deal or not. They were NEVER going to abide to the nuclear stand-down. They were just playing the gullible USA for time, while still hiding and keeping inspections to only "approved" locations. Highly suspect military sites where nuclear R&D were likely going down were fully OFF LIMITS to inspection personnel. Don't make me dig up links to reports of that BS going on during the latter days of Obama's admin, just prior to and after the $billions on pallets cash dump.
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Surfdog

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Did you listen to it?

Your reply doesn't make sense as usual.
I read/skimmed the highlights transcripts, and listening now.

More or less sounds like auditioning for another CNN or MSNBC former Obama admin talking head "specialist".

Hagel is another RINO.
 

FecalFace

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What did they do so well to deserve those frozen assets back?

Advance on being good boyz with toothless nuclear deal?
Diplomacy is about compromise, not about ultimatums.

I correctly predicted what would happen with Trumby's amazing deal with North Korea.

Trump didn't give them any concessions, just an ultimatum. He failed miserably.

The Nuclear Deal was much cheaper than what we will be spending on this conflict, just to make situation worse.

The righties never fucking learn that escalating conflicts and using "punishment" doesn't work. Dumb AF.
 

Surfdog

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Focus on content.

Refute is points if you must.
So far, mostly more handwringing, non-decision making, beating around bush appeasement like he and the Obama admin did with most international policy.

Hagel even admits (in interview) that the nuclear deal had nothing, and did nothing towards reining in their terrorist type proxy attacks in the region. It was a weak ass deal portrayed as some "historic achievement" towards world peace. Far from it.

Lots more "what if" "could be" "might be" "likely" speculative negativity to paint worse case scenarios, typical of MSM talking heads.

Listened to the whole thing. You owe me 16 minutes of my life back.
 

FecalFace

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What did they do so well to deserve those frozen assets back?

Advance on being good boyz with toothless nuclear deal?
You are contradicting every single report from the inspectors and negotiators who were on the ground in Iran and who were making progress.
 

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"Hagel even admits (in interview) that the nuclear deal had nothing, and did nothing towards reining in their terrorist type proxy attacks in the region. It was a weak ass deal portrayed as some "historic achievement" towards world peace. Far from it."

Did you hear the part where he said, "It would be nice if you could solve everything at once but it doesn't work out that way"?

You don't agree with that?
 

Surfdog

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You are contradicting every single report from the inspectors and negotiators who were on the ground in Iran and who were making progress.
You're either pathetic in denial of what happened right after the nuke deal with Iran, or just lying about what went down.

https://www.belfercenter.org/publication/are-iranian-military-bases-limits-inspection

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/09/08/are_iranian_military_bases_off-limits_to_inspection_128007.html

And this part of the "deal" is so damn funny, if it we're so outright lame.......

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/iran-nuclear-talks/side-deal-allows-iran-inspect-its-own-military-site-n412786

Much more of this is out there, if you dare look for yourself.
 

FecalFace

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So far, mostly more handwringing, non-decision making, beating around bush appeasement like he and the Obama admin did with most international policy.

Hagel even admits (in interview) that the nuclear deal had nothing, and did nothing towards reining in their terrorist type proxy attacks in the region. It was a weak ass deal portrayed as some "historic achievement" towards world peace. Far from it.

Lots more "what if" "could be" "might be" "likely" speculative negativity to paint worse case scenarios, typical of MSM talking heads.

Listened to the whole thing. You owe me 16 minutes of my life back.
What we have now is better how? Answer.
 

Surfdog

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"Hagel even admits (in interview) that the nuclear deal had nothing, and did nothing towards reining in their terrorist type proxy attacks in the region. It was a weak ass deal portrayed as some "historic achievement" towards world peace. Far from it."

Did you hear the part where he said, "It would be nice if you could solve everything at once but it doesn't work out that way"?

You don't agree with that?
That's kind of huge "duh" comment, don't you think?

How is that some kind of profound statement?
 

Surfdog

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You said the deal did stop Iran's foreign interventions and that was why you thought it was toothless..
I think you meant "didn't stop Iran" right?

If the "deal" was going to be worth a sh*t, it would've included de-escalation of their terror tactics in the region.

But NOOOOO, we couldn't impose that bit of sanity.
 
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