I remember when I used to screw on the carpet.
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I used to drive in my car
Get a hand job on the way to Del Taco
The less fanatical wing of Iranian society appears unable to ditch the Clerics x Military collabo fucking them over.
The Saudis are a complete sh!t show at the citizen level.
Reminder Brandon, Trump, and Bibi could only dream of dabbing on the opposition the way Hamas dabbed on theirs in 2006.
Future recruits?
The Palestinians breed like rabbits. The Israelis actually worth a sh!t are a near/sub replacement-rate society just like South Korea, Japan, native-born Americans, etc.
GWS had an outstanding point. Hamas sort of took a page out of bin Laden's book. They're launching Physix surfboards into Ashkelon and Israel is shooting them down with Porsche 911s.
You used to say, Jihad and let Jihad?
Uh. yeah. Israel offers no strategic value in the region. Mmm ok......because Israel has such VAST oil reserves.Anyway, thanks for showing that you have no f-ing idea what you're talking about before trying to make some other inane point.
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SowdeeIn August 1958, a memorandum submitted to the National Security Council by the NSC Planning Board concluded:
It is doubtful whether any likely US pressure on Israel would cause Israel to make concessions which would do much to satisfy Arab demands which — in the final analysis — may not be satisfied by anything short of the destruction of Israel. Moreover, if we choose to combat radical Arab nationalism and to hold Persian Gulf oil by force if necessary, then a logical corollary would be to support Israel as the only pro-West power left in the Near East.
MIKE JONES IS DUMB
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Another Voice (Rev. 18:4): The Explanation Of Everything Happening In The World Today: "Tikkun Olam" The Jewish Conspiracy To Rule The World - From The Kabbalah ..In Their Own Words:
Perhaps it may help you to connect the dots...
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Another Voice (Rev. 18:4): The Explanation Of Everything Happening In The World Today: "Tikkun Olam" The Jewish Conspiracy To Rule The World - From The Kabbalah ..In Their Own Words:
Perhaps it may help you to connect the dots...
I am goingoutside now...They are building up things... the stage is begin prepped...
Yeah, at this point that is not going to happen. "Fixing it" is no longer an option. The scope and barbarity of this particular attack is going to drown out calls for moderation within Israel, and as far as the rest of the world, at this point I doubt they care what anyone says. Bernie Sanders and AOC aren't going to matter. Old Joe won't do scrap to slow it down either. They are going to level Gaza, and kill just about everyone left there. They already told people get out or die. Pretty clear.
I really don't blame them. The killing of children, even babies, the complete lack of humanity was as brutal as it gets. And let's not forget they didn't care if you were a German, Jew, whatever, if you were there they were killing you or taking you hostage. No discretion, no care, just kill or capture EVERYONE. And now the threat to execute hostages and post the video, just like ISIS. F'em.
Only chance? Nope, they elected Hamas. If Hamas thinks they are going to convert people to their side based on the retaliation, they are mostly wrong. Plenty of people do support them, and they find themselves siding with the worst of humanity. Even some self described democratic socialists are backing away. Talib is holding strong, and I'll bet she is absolutely done after this. And can we now put the final nail in the coffin of BLM? F them too, those phony grifters.
I've never had a super strong dog in the fight, although I've always leaned towards Israel. At this point, I'm not feeling much in the way of sympathy for the onslaught of hell that is coming.
There may be two states one day but one will be a bombed out shell of what was once Gaza. After that who knows.
I really don't blame them. The killing of children, even babies, the complete lack of humanity was as brutal as it gets. And let's not forget they didn't care if you were a German, Jew, whatever, if you were there they were killing you or taking you hostage. No discretion, no care, just kill or capture EVERYONE. And now the threat to execute hostages and post the video, just like ISIS. F'em.
Only chance? Nope, they elected Hamas. If Hamas thinks they are going to convert people to their side based on the retaliation, they are mostly wrong. Plenty of people do support them, and they find themselves siding with the worst of humanity. Even some self described democratic socialists are backing away. Talib is holding strong, and I'll bet she is absolutely done after this. And can we now put the final nail in the coffin of BLM? F them too, those phony grifters.
I've never had a super strong dog in the fight, although I've always leaned towards Israel. At this point, I'm not feeling much in the way of sympathy for the onslaught of hell that is coming.
There may be two states one day but one will be a bombed out shell of what was once Gaza. After that who knows.
The "two-state solution" is a naive fantasy at this point. It's never going to happen. Hamas and Hezbollah's stated purpose is to eliminate Israel. It's tough to negotiate with people whose only goal is KILL THEM ALL!! Israel has stated that any two state solution would require that the Palestinian state be unarmed for security purposes. Which would make it really difficult to kill Jews with any level of efficiency. So that's not acceptable. And now with this? Extreme wanton slaughter of unarmed citizens? The concept of the two-state solution is dead. With this, the die is cast. You don't cut the heads off of babies and then make nicey-nice and live in peace. This is on until the end. Violence and more violence. I see no path for this other than 'kill more of them than they can kill of us.'
EDIT: I sincerely hope I am wrong. At this point, I can see no path to peace. This really is looking like a great setup for the biblical concept of Armageddon.
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Hamas just got a gold medal in the subhuman olympics, they are not interested in a two state solution, and they run the strip.
Pretty much spot on. Hamas has shown their hand to the world that they are barbaric savages that have zero morals. They don't care about anyone or anything other than the elimination of Israel and to kill Jews and they are willing to sacrifice their own to achieve that goal. Utterly sickening and how anyone can try to justify it is beyond my comprehension.
Time will tell - as some have noted, this may be a trap to draw Israel in to a quagmire via close combat on the strip: filled w/tunnels and civilians and fighters in wait
now, leave me alone so i can eat mcdonalds and drive my jeep
Have we not figured out the terrorist tactic of drawing superpowers into long drawn out unconventional conflict? The mujahideen did it. Al Qeuda did it. ISIS did it. And now Hamas is doing it. They expect and want an over reaction and they’re most certainly gonna get it.
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It's not like they're flying over to Afghanistan to mess with people they have no history with.
I think you're missing a few things. First I don't think you can really call Israel a "superpower" (nuclear power, yes) and second, Hamas is occupying a geographical space about the size of 3 or 4 ten kiloton blast radiuses? Or is that radii?
Really, they can make Gaza uninhabitable pretty quickly without the bombs. Blockade. Cut off power, water, fuel, food...
Which I believe would technically be a war crime, but at this point I think the gloves are off.
You guys are outraged by the spectacle of terrorism: women, children and civilians slaughtered in the most grotesque ways possible.
But where is your morality when it comes to 75 years of systemic oppression in which human rights abuses are SOP?
On a daily basis, Palestinian women and children's lives are destroyed by the absence of medical services, clean water, basic infrastructure, not to mention the destruction of their homes by settlers.
Anyone disagreeing that this is a grossly asymmetrical conflict that has left far more Palestinians dead than Jewish Isrealis?
Since 1946, approximately 26,000 Jewish Israelis have been killed by Palestinians. Compare that to 91,000 dead Palestinians (https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/total-casualties-arab-israeli-conflict).
Add the general immiseration Israel has wrought on Palestine, and it boggles my mind that people support the state of Israel. You guys are fucking hypocrites.
Here's US State Department's 2021 Human Rights Report on Israel:
"Significant human rights issues included credible reports of: unlawful or arbitrary killings; arbitrary detention, often extraterritorial detention of Palestinians from the occupied territories in Israel; restrictions on Palestinians residing in Jerusalem including arbitrary or unlawful interference with privacy, family, and home; substantial interference with the freedom of association; arbitrary or unlawful interference with privacy; harassment of nongovernmental organizations; significant restrictions on freedom of movement within the country; violence against asylum seekers and irregular migrants; violence or threats of violence against national, racial, or ethnic minority groups; and labor rights abuses against foreign workers and Palestinians from the West Bank."
But where is your morality when it comes to 75 years of systemic oppression in which human rights abuses are SOP?
On a daily basis, Palestinian women and children's lives are destroyed by the absence of medical services, clean water, basic infrastructure, not to mention the destruction of their homes by settlers.
Anyone disagreeing that this is a grossly asymmetrical conflict that has left far more Palestinians dead than Jewish Isrealis?
Since 1946, approximately 26,000 Jewish Israelis have been killed by Palestinians. Compare that to 91,000 dead Palestinians (https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/total-casualties-arab-israeli-conflict).
Add the general immiseration Israel has wrought on Palestine, and it boggles my mind that people support the state of Israel. You guys are fucking hypocrites.
Here's US State Department's 2021 Human Rights Report on Israel:
"Significant human rights issues included credible reports of: unlawful or arbitrary killings; arbitrary detention, often extraterritorial detention of Palestinians from the occupied territories in Israel; restrictions on Palestinians residing in Jerusalem including arbitrary or unlawful interference with privacy, family, and home; substantial interference with the freedom of association; arbitrary or unlawful interference with privacy; harassment of nongovernmental organizations; significant restrictions on freedom of movement within the country; violence against asylum seekers and irregular migrants; violence or threats of violence against national, racial, or ethnic minority groups; and labor rights abuses against foreign workers and Palestinians from the West Bank."
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I heard today they have 100k troops in place and have called up 300k in reserves. They are going to lose some, but it won't stop them.
Last time I was in Israel was in 1976. I noticed they had troops with machine guns checking out people going into a movie theatre. They have been living with the threat of violence for decades, really since the formation of the country. Same 75 years or so. Various countries have sworn to drive them into the sea, and have tried on more than one occasion.
I have, in the past, empathized with the residents of the west bank and gaza. Not anymore. You can pick a side, or not. I'm going with the guys who don't cut the heads off infants.
I have, in the past, empathized with the residents of the west bank and gaza. Not anymore. You can pick a side, or not. I'm going with the guys who don't cut the heads off infants.
It's all murder Waxhead. Ain't no picking sides here. All people deserve humane living conditions and freedom from violence. I'd just love people to acknowledge that the state of Israel is the power here. They created the conditions for terrorism. They benefit long term from all of this violence, which ensures Western aid.
You have to recognize the role that Palestinian "Leadership" has played in the plight of the Palestinian people over those 75 years. How did Arafat's reign help the Palestinians. His family lived in a high class district in Paris on the International Aid $$$$$ that was supposed to go to help up lift his people. Nothing has changed since then. Palestinian "Leadership" has never done anything for the benefit of the people they are supposed to lead and serve. You cannot pin that on Israel and if you can't acknowledge that, you're the fucking hypocrite.
Has Israel has been heavy handed? You bet they have. Did/do the actions of the PLO, Hamas, Hezbollah, etc... force this heavy handedness? you bet they have.
Nothing that you wrote or pasted above warrants the despicable unhuman acts perpetrated by Hamas so stop trying to justify it.