Greg Liddle Burrito

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Hi Guys,

Been eyeing a Liddle Burrito for a while. Found some 6'0/5'10 in stock. I'm wondering how do you size it? My go to board is a 5'3 Christenson Fish? Thanks!
 
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Liddle's are amazing boards. May change your life. Or you might hate it. Understand what you are buying. A 'Burrito' is a 'Point Breaker' with the nose and tail cut off. Sizing is more about thickness than anything. 3" for 180lbs plus, 2 5/8" for lighter riders. Thinner rails for small point waves, thicker rails for more juiced point waves. If you surf lined up waves and like the feel of riding a wave, as opposed to slashing the wave, then you will find the rail to rail, up and down surfing of a 'Burrito' the same as that of a 'Point Breaker' with the main difference that the less board will allow for a bit more freedom. Adding the side fins will help in more steep drops, and allow for a bit less slide should you choose to surf off the tail a bit to make cutbacks. Bottom line, your fish will make crappy waves fun if your main style is slash and attack. A burrito will require you to surf with your feet closer together and your weight forward. It will hate sloppy waves, or juiced beach break over head high. Length is pretty irrellevant paddlewise for a good surfer as a 6' Burrito will glide into a clean wave almost as easily as a 7'0" Pointbreaker. The main difference is the sweet spot is smaller, so even more skill is required to really bury the rails forward and let the magic happen. ;)
 
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Forgot to add the most important aspect of Liddle's. They are optimised for forehand surfing. If you are riding Malibu and are a goofy foot, learn to ride regular. Going backside is a waste (imo) unless you are a Derek Hynd stylist.
 
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Hullman

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They are designed to use the rail more in turning than any other design. So you bank them over rather than swivel them. Banking is not particularly hard to do backside, but there is a natural tendency to put your weight back on your back foot when you do. And once you do that, the back end will slide out and you "starfish". You have to keep your weight centered to slightly front weighted. It's a little easier on a Burrito because they are short. You can reduce the backside slide by moving the fin back but you will take away some of the frontside magic in doing so. (The whole "single fin tuning" thing is worthy of its own thread). If you go ahead and buy one, be sure it has the sidebite boxes. If the whole single fin thing doesn't mesh, stick a couple of small keel fins in the side boxes and give it a try as a twin fin...you might be surprised.
 

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They are designed to use the rail more in turning than any other design. So you bank them over rather than swivel them. Banking is not particularly hard to do backside, but there is a natural tendency to put your weight back on your back foot when you do. And once you do that, the back end will slide out and you "starfish". You have to keep your weight centered to slightly front weighted. It's a little easier on a Burrito because they are short. You can reduce the backside slide by moving the fin back but you will take away some of the frontside magic in doing so. (The whole "single fin tuning" thing is worthy of its own thread). If you go ahead and buy one, be sure it has the sidebite boxes. If the whole single fin thing doesn't mesh, stick a couple of small keel fins in the side boxes and give it a try as a twin fin...you might be surprised.
Ha ha...Hullman flushed out of lurker world! Nice input/insights as always.
 
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Liddle's are amazing boards. May change your life. Or you might hate it. Understand what you are buying. A 'Burrito' is a 'Point Breaker' with the nose and tail cut off. Sizing is more about thickness than anything. 3" for 180lbs plus, 2 5/8" for lighter riders. Thinner rails for small point waves, thicker rails for more juiced point waves. If you surf lined up waves and like the feel of riding a wave, as opposed to slashing the wave, then you will find the rail to rail, up and down surfing of a 'Burrito' the same as that of a 'Point Breaker' with the main difference that the less board will allow for a bit more freedom. Adding the side fins will help in more steep drops, and allow for a bit less slide should you choose to surf off the tail a bit to make cutbacks. Bottom line, your fish will make crappy waves fun if your main style is slash and attack. A burrito will require you to surf with your feet closer together and your weight forward. It will hate sloppy waves, or juiced beach break over head high. Length is pretty irrellevant paddlewise for a good surfer as a 6' Burrito will glide into a clean wave almost as easily as a 7'0" Pointbreaker. The main difference is the sweet spot is smaller, so even more skill is required to really bury the rails forward and let the magic happen. ;)
Thanks for the insight! its very helpful
 
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Doing a liddle internet browsing and found these videos among many others. One is showing a point breaker type board ridden at Rincon on a day where you'd be frothing to wack the lip with a hp shortboard, the other showing how Liddles ride any peeling wave essentialy the same with a wide variety of lengths, and then Dane not sure what to make of it! The magic in these boards is that the feeling is very much the same whether 1 ft or perfect 6f. It looks like lame long boarding, but is infact very involved surfing using the energy of the wave very unlike other surf craft. The biggest drawback these days is that as you'll be wanting to surf them at longboard spots, they take off like shortboards (where the wave is actually breaking) so you'll have 20 longboarders paddling at you from out back.... but even still, I highly recommend if you've got the right conditions and an open mind.