Good Wave Twin - Round or Swallow Tail?

toddo

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I have lost a reasonable amount of weight recently so time to update a few boards. Have been surfing swallow tailed twins almost exclusively for a few years now and want something around generously proportioned hpsb dims or maybe slightly longer for when the surf lights up. This board will be my middle board for a G-land trip coming up in September also. This board is for head high plus, points, beach breaks and barrels.

Do I stick with what i know and do another swallow (have a 6'2 swallow that fits the bill that i shaped at my heaviest that is now feeling too bulky to engage the rails and i've been skipping out a bit), or thoughts on a a 4 channel round tail for this purpose? Either way I'm planning 5 fin boxes so it can be ridden as twin, twinzer, or twin plus trailer (fronts in the twinzer boxes) for a bit of versatility when i take it travelling.

critique on the planshapes welcome :)

RP is 6'3 x 20 x 2 5/8
Swallow is 6'2 x 20 x 2 5/8

Both flat decks with low rails carrying around 35-36L
 

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Aruka

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I say round. I'm generally more biased towards round tails but especially for good waves. I have a few RT twins and I dig them. Dunno if I would go channels and all the fin boxes but I suppose if you're trying for max versatility it makes some sense.
 
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toddo

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I say round. I'm generally more biased towards round tails but especially for good waves. I have a few RT twins and I dig them. Dunno if I would go channels and all the fin boxes but I suppose if you're trying for max versatility it makes some sense.
good point. The boxes (apart from trailer) would all be outside of the channels either way I think. Would be a nightmare having them in the channels.
Might have to check that and revise to just a single channel out the middle.
 
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Aruka

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That board looks sick. What kind of waves do you surf it in?

but so does the swallow!
the twin goes in waist to well overhead. likes a little push to come alive with that narrow tail. holds a line in the tube very well. gets into waves a bit earlier than my hpsb's and has a little more glide but is otherwise at home in similar conditions. i like the round tail for the smooth rail to rail feel. the rails on this one are fairly HP. has a moderately domed deck and fairly fine foil. thin tail, etc.

that swallow tail is a 6-6, meant for twin+trailer fin setup. it's got a little more of a flat deck and fuller, more down rail. i've had some good sessions on it but it hasn't been as intuitive as the 6-4. maybe just a little more foam in the rails than I prefer or something.
 
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good point. The boxes (apart from trailer) would all be outside of the channels either way I think. Would be a nightmare having them in the channels.
Might have to check that and revise to just a single channel out the middle.
See alpha omega and bottom with fin boxes and with glass on see how Malcom changes position of channel not fin placement:shaka:

 
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toddo

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Finally got round to shaping this today. I was planning channels, but after i had the outline and foil done it just looked like a spiral V would be a better fit so I went down that route. subtle single up front blending into V at about 18" from tail.

it's 6'3 x 20.25 x 2.62, with a flat deck and pretty low rails. Stringerless VVH EPS with is 2lb/ft density. To be wrapped in a mix of basalt and E-glass.

i'm not going to bother with the fin setup i discussed above - just going twin/twinzer. My preferred twin setup is 6.5" from tail. think i will bump up to 7 to compensate for the round tail and extra length. IMG-20220605-WA0020.jpegIMG-20220605-WA0031.jpeg
 

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Surfed with Travis Hashimoto yesterday. Griffin will know him Trav used to manage the T&C factory after being a pro surfer in Japan. Trav is working on elevators now and shaping boars on the side, using the knowledge he gained working at T&C and his high level of surfing.

He was surfing a round tail twin like the one I posted. Trav said the bottom is just vee through out and the fins are at 7 1/2 I think. The one he was riding had the fins moved closer to the stringer. Travis was ripping on it. Stands on the tail over the fins and goes ham.