Good Riddance.

$kully

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Hopefully the PEEOTUS is watching. He can learn a thing or two about class and grace. Obama wasn't a perfect President but at least he was Presidential.
 

StuAzole

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Leaves with one of the highest approval ratings ever. trumP comes in with one of the lowest.

So yeah, good riddance Obama!
 

$kully

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StuAzole said:
Leaves with one of the highest approval ratings ever. trumP comes in with one of the lowest.

So yeah, good riddance Obama!
But Trump is winning, just ask Doug.
 

brukuns

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Such a shame. Probably the best president America had in a while. I honestly hope Trump turns out not to be the gigantic racist fuck douche bag that he obviously seems to be. Hope everything turns out ok.
 

brukuns

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GromsDad said:
frvcvs said:
Hopefully the PEEOTUS is watching. He can learn a thing or two about class and grace. Obama wasn't a perfect President but at least he was Presidential.
Class and grace???? Are you joking??? Two traits Obama was seriously lacking in if you were paying any attention.
Do you at least agree that if compared to Trump, Obama is as graceful as a Disney princess?
 

GromsDad

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West of the Atlantic. East of the ICW.
brukuns said:
GromsDad said:
frvcvs said:
Hopefully the PEEOTUS is watching. He can learn a thing or two about class and grace. Obama wasn't a perfect President but at least he was Presidential.
Class and grace???? Are you joking??? Two traits Obama was seriously lacking in if you were paying any attention.
Do you at least agree that if compared to Trump, Obama is as graceful as a Disney princess?
I'm comparing Obummer to every other president in my lifetime. Trump hasn't taken office so how he acts as president remains to be seen. Compared to Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Clinton and the Bushes.........Obama is a world class asshole.

I was listening to a left wing democrat pundit on the radio driving to the office this morning and this woman described it pretty well saying "if only Obama had acted in reality the way he presents himself in his lofty speeches history would look back much more fondly on him." This person described him well using the term thin skinned and basically said that he over-reached so badly in 2008 and 2009 that it poisoned the entire rest of his presidency and left their party in the mess it finds itself in today. As much as I disagree with the left I thought this person gave a pretty fair assessment of things from the left's point of view. I think as time goes on more and more democrats will become more honest about the mess Obama has created and the tone he has set for the democrat party.
 

Mike_Jones

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GromsDad said:
This person .....basically said that he over-reached so badly in 2008 and 2009 that it poisoned the entire rest of his presidency and left their party in the mess it finds itself in today.
But isn't that true of leftists in general. "We're the smartest people in the room. Everyone agrees, we KNOW what's best for people. We'll just force this sh!t down everyone's throat, and they'll all thank us."
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Uberkuque

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GromsDad said:
brukuns said:
GromsDad said:
frvcvs said:
Hopefully the PEEOTUS is watching. He can learn a thing or two about class and grace. Obama wasn't a perfect President but at least he was Presidential.
Class and grace???? Are you joking??? Two traits Obama was seriously lacking in if you were paying any attention.
Do you at least agree that if compared to Trump, Obama is as graceful as a Disney princess?
I'm comparing Obummer to every other president in my lifetime. Trump hasn't taken office so how he acts as president remains to be seen. Compared to Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Clinton and the Bushes.........Obama is a world class asshole.

I was listening to a left wing democrat pundit on the radio driving to the office this morning and this woman described it pretty well saying "if only Obama had acted in reality the way he presents himself in his lofty speeches history would look back much more fondly on him." This person described him well using the term thin skinned and basically said that he over-reached so badly in 2008 and 2009 that it poisoned the entire rest of his presidency and left their party in the mess it finds itself in today. As much as I disagree with the left I thought this person gave a pretty fair assessment of things from the left's point of view. I think as time goes on more and more democrats will become more honest about the mess Obama has created and the tone he has set for the democrat party.
why is obama a lousy president? the facts and the numbers show otherwise.
 

Mike_Jones

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why is obama a lousy president? the facts and the numbers show otherwise.
First we had Obama's ridiculous vow to release all of the Guantanimo prisoners into the U.S. ....until the few he released got caught committing violent crimes. Then, as Obama was walking out the door he released the remaining jihadists to wage war against his predecessor's America.

Now this:

On His Way Out, Obama Moves To Make National Elections Less Secure

In yet another move by the Obama administration to stick its thumb in the nation's eye on the way out, it has decided to have the federal government meddle in state and local elections. It's yet another terrible decision that Donald Trump is going to have to undo.

With almost no notice, Homeland Security chief Jeh Johnson announced that his department was designating the nation's elections system as "critical infrastructure," thereby giving DHS greater control over how states run their own elections.

This is a classic example of a government solution in search of a problem, one that will itself end up creating actual problems.

There's been no evidence of any foreign government tampering with election outcomes — although there were reports of attempts to gain access to registration databases.

And, given the fact that election systems are highly decentralized — there are 9,000 separate jurisdictions in a presidential election that vary throughout the country — there's little hope that such a plan could be carried out on a wide scale.

Both the National Association of Secretaries of State and the U.S. Election Assistance Commission complained that DHS didn't bother to work with state officials, or answer their questions, before making its decision.

As Connecticut Secretary of State Denise W. Merrill, who heads the national secretaries association, told The Associated Press: "We're having trouble understanding exactly what they're going to do, that we're not already doing. States were already doing much of this (security work) themselves using very different products."

Nevertheless, Johnson used the Democrats' trumped up charges about Russian meddling in the election as an excuse to ramrod this decision through, despite the fact that the intelligence report made public last week specifically states that there was no evidence of Russian tampering with actual votes.

This is a recipe for mischief. By designating election systems as a critical infrastructure, the federal government can now interfere with state decisions on polling places, technology, voter registration databases, voting machines and other processes used to conduct an election.

As with every other area of live that comes under federal regulations, it's a virtual certainty that sometime down the road DHS will start insisting on more uniformity and centralized control of elections. That would, of course, make elections more vulnerable to foreign hackers and domestic election fraud, not less......
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StuAzole

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I didn't vote for Obama the 2nd time, and I don't think he did as well as he might have, but f*ck the guy can give a speech.
 

Mike_Jones

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Uberkuque said:
why is obama a lousy president? the facts and the numbers show otherwise.
Obama farewell can't hide a disastrous legacy

President Obama spent much of Tuesday's farewell address boasting about his success, but the facts paint a much different picture. The truth is, he oversaw the precipitous decline of the American economy, rammed through a disastrous health care law and presided over a thoroughly failed foreign policy.

The last eight years have brought the lowest labor participation rates since the 1970s, with 95 million Americans out of the labor force. The so-called recovery has been the weakest one since the 1940s. We have the lowest home ownership rate in 51 years – despite mortgage rates artificially kept at record lows. Over 11 million more Americans are on food stamps since he became president and more than 43 million Americans now live in poverty. One of every six men between 18 and 34 are either in prison or out of work.

And by the time he leaves office, President Obama will have added more to our national debt that all the other presidents before him combined. When President Obama finally leaves office, the national debt will be almost $20 trillion. Prior to taking office, the man who has tacked on $9.3 trillion to what our children and grandchildren owe once said the then $9 trillion national debt was "unpatriotic."

Then, of course, there's President Obama's assault on the business community through his burdensome regulations. Consider this: The estimated cost of regulations under Obama is a staggering $873 billion. That includes a shocking $344 billion cost in Environmental Protection Agency regulations alone. All told, the number of new regulations that been finalized under President Obama checks in at almost 3,000.

When it comes to jobs, President Obama is always bragging about how many he's created, but facts are stubborn things. In the past eight years, America has lost more than 300,000 manufacturing jobs and, although the president doesn't mention it, America had a global trade deficit of over $732 billion last year.

Yet another drag on the American economy is ObamaCare, his signature legislation and crowning achievement. Remember when Obama repeatedly told you that under his plan you could keep your doctor, you keep your plan and that that it would drive down overall health costs to the point the average family would save $2,500 a year? And how ObamaCare would actually reduce the deficit?

"No matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise to the American people," Obama said on June 15, 2009. "If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan, period."

Well, millions of people lost their doctors and their insurance plans, but that was just the start of the ObamaCare disaster. This year, Affordable Care Act premiums are exploding by 25 percent on average. In Arizona, they're jumping by a stunning 116 percent. Deductibles are so high that even if ObamaCare recipients pay their premiums, they can't afford to use their coverage in many cases.

As for the average American family saving $2,500 a year on health care, the exact opposite has happened. According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, the increase in health care costs for employer-sponsored benefits since 2008 is now $5,462. That is a 43 percent increase.

It just keeps getting worse. Choice in health care providers available through ObamaCare is evaporating. In states like Alabama, Alaska, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Wyoming, people buying on the exchanges have a single insurer to choose from. It's because insurers are now pulling out after losing massive amounts of money. So much for choice.

So what about foreign policy? Obama gave Iran, the No. 1 state sponsor of terror, $150 billion and allows them to continue to spin their centrifuges? And of course, he paid a ransom for four U.S. citizens Iran held prisoner, reversing longstanding policy and signaling to the world that there's money to be made from taking Americans captive.

Obama drew a "red line" when he warned Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad not to use chemical weapons. When Assad crossed it, Obama did nothing. Partly as a result, that country civil war continues and has created a massive worldwide humanitarian crisis.

In Egypt, Obama he gave Mohammed Morsi, the former Muslim Brotherhood head who became president but is now in prison for murder, F-16s, tanks and $1.5 billion in taxpayer funds.

In Libya, the president helped overthrew Qaddafi, and that country has since fallen into chaos, creating a hotbed for ISIS.

And speaking of ISIS, back 2014, President Obama called the world's most dangerous terrorist organization the"JayVee" team. The next year, just hours before the horrific ISIS attack in Paris that killed 130 people, Obama assured us that ISIS was "contained." ISIS was never a junior varsity team, and certainly was not contained. In fact, it seized vast parts of Iraq because Obama created a vacuum when he pulled U.S. troops out too early for purely political reasons.

There's no doubt President Obama's legacy is one of severe damage to the country. But the good news is that we'll have a new president in 10 days in Donald Trump.

The president-elect has promised to clean up this mess and he has a very clear plan to do it. He will create millions of new jobs, lower taxes, reform the tax code, negotiate better and fairer trade deals, cut burdensome regulations, encourage multi-national corporations to bring back trillions of dollars, promote energy independence repeal and replace ObamaCare, build a border wall, vet refugees and appoint originalist justices to the U.S. Supreme Court.

And the soon-to-be President Trump won't be afraid to say "radical Islam" while destroying ISIS. He will "drain the swamp," and reduce the size of government, eliminate bureaucratic waste, fraud, abuse and send control over public education back to the states.

There's reason to believe real, lasting change is coming our way. It will be up to all of us to hold Trump and his team accountable.
Nine days left .....but who's counting?
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