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That is the premise for my next screenplay.“Shelter in place” at HKGC!
didnt know either - used to just go to revolucion street as a grom w/ homemade fake ids and get into the strip clubs on college night. thought that was it for TJ, last time i was in ensenada our homie gave us a proper tour of TJ before we headed home. its huge and there are some pretty nice areas and homes
same homie is saying the sitch is pretty sketch right now but a bit overblown as per usual w the media.
TJ is home to approx. 1.5 million people.
Bertrand's stats are for total deaths not per capita deaths. Mexico's total population is 130-150 million vs 330 million or so for the US. So, based on per capita deaths by firearm, Mexico out paces the US by a decent margin.
Bertrand's stats are for total deaths not per capita deaths. Mexico's total population is 130-150 million vs 330 million or so for the US. So, based on per capita deaths by firearm, Mexico out paces the US by a decent margin.
You said gun murders then post stats for total gun deaths.
About 60% of gun deaths in the US are suicides.
For gun homicides the US ranks 60th in the world.
His stats are for all gun deaths but his initial claim was gun murders and the US is way below mexico for gun murders. So his post is even more worthless than your what your analysis points to.
Laughable stats. To better understand you might try to get a stat on how many people are missing (disappeared).
Looks like Central America has a pretty strong lock on the gun homicides per capita rates, but the US has way more per capita than any of the other "high-income" countries with at least 10 million residents.
www.healthdata.org
Having a hard time confirming your numbers though Duffy. From what I have seen the U.S. appears to be much higher that 60th overall. Maybe more like 16th?
www.npr.org
Edit: This article gets a bit closer and talks about the US being 30th overall in 2016: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/theres-a-new-global-ranking-of-gun-deaths-heres-where-the-u-s-stands
On gun violence, the United States is an outlier | The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation
When we look exclusively at high-income countries and territories with populations of 10 million or more, the US ranks first for its high levels of gun violence.
www.healthdata.org
Having a hard time confirming your numbers though Duffy. From what I have seen the U.S. appears to be much higher that 60th overall. Maybe more like 16th?
Gun violence deaths: how the U.S. compares with the rest of the world
The grim news of mass shootings in Uvalde, Texas, and Buffalo, New York, has again cast a spotlight on the gun violence death rate in the U.S., which is higher than much of the world.
www.npr.org
Edit: This article gets a bit closer and talks about the US being 30th overall in 2016: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/theres-a-new-global-ranking-of-gun-deaths-heres-where-the-u-s-stands
They are counting suicides in “violent gun deaths”.Looks like Central America has a pretty strong lock on the gun homicides per capita rates, but the US has way more per capita than any of the other "high-income" countries with at least 10 million residents.
On gun violence, the United States is an outlier | The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation
When we look exclusively at high-income countries and territories with populations of 10 million or more, the US ranks first for its high levels of gun violence.
Having a hard time confirming your numbers though Duffy. From what I have seen the U.S. appears to be much higher that 60th overall. Maybe more like 16th?
Gun violence deaths: how the U.S. compares with the rest of the world
The grim news of mass shootings in Uvalde, Texas, and Buffalo, New York, has again cast a spotlight on the gun violence death rate in the U.S., which is higher than much of the world.
Edit: This article gets a bit closer and talks about the US being 30th overall in 2016: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/theres-a-new-global-ranking-of-gun-deaths-heres-where-the-u-s-stands
Look at gun homicides by country…
This is from 2015 but it hasn’t changed that much since….
International Firearm Homicide Rates - Gun Control - ProCon.org
According to the Small Arms Survey, out of 224 countries the United States had the 47th highest firearm homicide rate at 5.2 murders per 100,000 people in 2019. El Salvador reported the highest rate in 2019 at 42.72 gun homicides per 100,000 people. Brazil had the highest total number of firearm...
gun-control.procon.org
| Rank | Country | Firearm Homicide Rate per 100,000 People | Number of Firearm Homicides |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Honduras | 67.19 | 5,218 |
| 2 | Venezuela | 52.03 | 15,533 |
| 3 | El Salvador | 48.76 | 2,969 |
| 4 | Jamaica | 31.80 | 882 |
| 5 | Guatemala | 29.93 | 4,542 |
| 6 | Belize | 29.71 | 100 |
| 7 | Colombia | 26.76 | 12,442 |
| 8 | Puerto Rico | 25.12 | 932 |
| 9 | Bahamas | 24.82 | 91 |
| 10 | Trinidad and Tobago | 23.73 | 320 |
| 11 | South Africa | 19.11 | 10.097 |
| 12 | Brazil | 19.10 | 38,494 |
| 13 | Lesotho | 18.71 | 383 |
| 14 | Afghanistan | 14.84 | 4,148 |
| 15 | Panama | 14.35 | 536 |
| 16 | Dominican Republic | 13.32 | 1,356 |
| 17 | Swaziland | 10.87 | 134 |
| 18 | Guyana | 10.34 | 78 |
| 19 | Haiti | 9.46 | 973 |
| 20 | Paraguay | 9.35 | 585 |
| 21 | Mexico | 8.33 | 10,913 |
| 22 | Iraq | 8.32 | 2,742 |
| 23 | Saint Kitts and Nevis | 8.09 | 4 |
| 24 | Saint Lucia | 7.89 | 14 |
| 25 | Philippines | 6.89 | 6,616 |
| 25 | Ecuador | 6.89 | 842 |
| 27 | Bolivia | 6.40 | 657 |
| 28 | Costa Rica | 5.91 | 278 |
| 29 | Nicaragua | 5.56 | 325 |
| 30 | Democratic Republic of the Congo | 5.21 | 3,434 |
| 31 | Pakistan | 4.94 | 8.758 |
| 32 | Barbados | 4.92 | 14 |
| 33 | Zimbabwe | 4.68 | 682 |
| 34 | Mauritania | 4.55 | 172 |
| 35 | Peru | 4.46 | 1,347 |
| 36 | Gabon | 4.43 | 71 |
| 37 | Yemen | 4.39 | 1,092 |
| 38 | Saudi Arabia | 4.34 | 1,280 |
| 39 | Botswana | 4.20 | 90 |
| 40 | Zambia | 4.19 | 620 |
| 41 | Thailand | 4.08 | 2,741 |
| 42 | Seychelles | 4.00 | 4 |
| 43 | Cameroon | 3.88 | 840 |
| 44 | Russia | 3.80 | 5,446 |
| 45 | Cape Verde | 3.61 | 18 |
| 45 | Togo | 3.61 | 18 |
| 47 | Cote d'Ivoire | 3.54 | 748 |
| 48 | Uruguay | 3.53 | 120 |
| 49 | Congo | 3.36 | 144 |
| 50 | Liberia | 3.25 | 136 |
| 51 | Central African Republic | 3.17 | 146 |
| 52 | Mali | 3.16 | 508 |
| 53 | Somalia | 3.07 | 308 |
| 54 | Burundi | 3.05 | 309 |
| 55 | Albania | 3.02 | 88 |
| 56 | Sao Tome and Principe | 2.82 | 5 |
| 57 | Sierra Leone | 2.82 | 170 |
| 58 | Papua New Guinea | 2.81 | 201 |
| 58 | Guinea | 2.77 | 323 |
| 60 | Comoros | 2.72 | 20 |
| 61 | United States | 2.70 | 8,592 |
| 62 | Guinea-Bissau | 2.66 | 46 |
| 63 | Senegal | 2.60 | 46 |
| 64 | Dominica | 2.58 | 2 |
| 65 | Djibouti | 2.53 | 22 |
| 65 | Gambia | 2.53 | 46 |
| 67 | Argentina | 2.52 | 1,062 |
| 68 | Niger | 2.49 | 440 |
| 69 | Oman | 2.47 | 87 |
| 70 | Sudan | 2.45 | 925 |
| 71 | Kenya | 2.39 | 1,016 |
| 72 | South Sudan | 2.29 | 252 |
| 73 | Kuwait | 2.18 | 74 |
| 74 | Burkina Faso | 2.14 | 355 |
| 75 | Namibia | 2.12 | 48 |
| 76 | Chad | 2.11 | 269 |
| 77 | Islamic Republic of Iran | 2.05 | 1,561 |
| 78 | Kiribati | 2.03 | 2 |
| 79 | United Arab Emierates | 2.01 | 180 |
| 80 | Lebanon | 1.97 | 97 |
| 81 | Montenegro | 1.91 | 12 |
| 81 | Jordan | 1.91 | 133 |
| 83 | Qatar | 1.81 | 37 |
| 84 | Grenada | 1.79 | 2 |
| 85 | Tonga | 1.77 | 2 |
| 86 | Benin | 1.70 | 171 |
| 87 | United Republic of Tanzania | 1.65 | 805 |
| 87 | Eritrea | 1.65 | 81 |
| 89 | Equatorial Guinea | 1.61 | 12 |
| 89 | Palestine | 1.61 | 69 |
So we should be proud that we're better than Haiti?They are counting suicides in “violent gun deaths”.
Look at gun homicides by country…
This is from 2015 but it hasn’t changed that much since….
International Firearm Homicide Rates - Gun Control - ProCon.org
According to the Small Arms Survey, out of 224 countries the United States had the 47th highest firearm homicide rate at 5.2 murders per 100,000 people in 2019. El Salvador reported the highest rate in 2019 at 42.72 gun homicides per 100,000 people. Brazil had the highest total number of firearm...
Rank Country Firearm Homicide Rate per 100,000 People Number of Firearm Homicides 1 Honduras 67.19 5,218 2 Venezuela 52.03 15,533 3 El Salvador 48.76 2,969 4 Jamaica 31.80 882 5 Guatemala 29.93 4,542 6 Belize 29.71 100 7 Colombia 26.76 12,442 8 Puerto Rico 25.12 932 9 Bahamas 24.82 91 10 Trinidad and Tobago 23.73 320 11 South Africa 19.11 10.097 12 Brazil 19.10 38,494 13 Lesotho 18.71 383 14 Afghanistan 14.84 4,148 15 Panama 14.35 536 16 Dominican Republic 13.32 1,356 17 Swaziland 10.87 134 18 Guyana 10.34 78 19 Haiti 9.46 973 20 Paraguay 9.35 585 21 Mexico 8.33 10,913 22 Iraq 8.32 2,742 23 Saint Kitts and Nevis 8.09 4 24 Saint Lucia 7.89 14 25 Philippines 6.89 6,616 25 Ecuador 6.89 842 27 Bolivia 6.40 657 28 Costa Rica 5.91 278 29 Nicaragua 5.56 325 30 Democratic Republic of the Congo 5.21 3,434 31 Pakistan 4.94 8.758 32 Barbados 4.92 14 33 Zimbabwe 4.68 682 34 Mauritania 4.55 172 35 Peru 4.46 1,347 36 Gabon 4.43 71 37 Yemen 4.39 1,092 38 Saudi Arabia 4.34 1,280 39 Botswana 4.20 90 40 Zambia 4.19 620 41 Thailand 4.08 2,741 42 Seychelles 4.00 4 43 Cameroon 3.88 840 44 Russia 3.80 5,446 45 Cape Verde 3.61 18 45 Togo 3.61 18 47 Cote d'Ivoire 3.54 748 48 Uruguay 3.53 120 49 Congo 3.36 144 50 Liberia 3.25 136 51 Central African Republic 3.17 146 52 Mali 3.16 508 53 Somalia 3.07 308 54 Burundi 3.05 309 55 Albania 3.02 88 56 Sao Tome and Principe 2.82 5 57 Sierra Leone 2.82 170 58 Papua New Guinea 2.81 201 58 Guinea 2.77 323 60 Comoros 2.72 20 61 United States 2.70 8,592 62 Guinea-Bissau 2.66 46 63 Senegal 2.60 46 64 Dominica 2.58 2 65 Djibouti 2.53 22 65 Gambia 2.53 46 67 Argentina 2.52 1,062 68 Niger 2.49 440 69 Oman 2.47 87 70 Sudan 2.45 925 71 Kenya 2.39 1,016 72 South Sudan 2.29 252 73 Kuwait 2.18 74 74 Burkina Faso 2.14 355 75 Namibia 2.12 48 76 Chad 2.11 269 77 Islamic Republic of Iran 2.05 1,561 78 Kiribati 2.03 2 79 United Arab Emierates 2.01 180 80 Lebanon 1.97 97 81 Montenegro 1.91 12 81 Jordan 1.91 133 83 Qatar 1.81 37 84 Grenada 1.79 2 85 Tonga 1.77 2 86 Benin 1.70 171 87 United Republic of Tanzania 1.65 805 87 Eritrea 1.65 81 89 Equatorial Guinea 1.61 12 89 Palestine 1.61 69
Literally not a single western developed nation on that list, ahead or below US.
But hey Honduras is worse than us! Wooo!
Is that an admission that your earlier claim was chicken fried dogshit?So we should be proud that we're better than Haiti?
Literally not a single western developed nation on that list, ahead or below US.
But hey Honduras is worse than us! Wooo!
No, I'm pointing at the obvious flaw with Duffy's reasoning.
Is that your admission that I'm right?
Post more tacos and less failed gotchas.
If we had no guns there’s be no gun murders. Duh.So we should be proud that we're better than Haiti?
Literally not a single western developed nation on that list, ahead or below US.
But hey Honduras is worse than us! Wooo!
Our overall (all types of murder tools used) murder rate isn’t really that much different than other western countries.
Also, it isn’t the “gun turds” you have in your head that are committing these crimes. It’s primarily inner city gang violence.
If you remove all guns there’s be no gun murders.
If you removed a certain 13% of the population (actually just a small percent of the 13%) you cut the overall US murder rate in half.
Gun deaths.
People who get murdered by guns are no any more dead than people who die by guns.
And again, not a single western, developed democracy on that list.
I never said that.
It's attitude like yours and other gun turds that's a problem.
Guns are for kooks.
And it seems there are a lot of them here.
West is best, except America is not part of the west, according to that list.
By all means, make it easier for everybody to get as many guns as possible.
Maybe then America can be #1 on that list!
That list would look a lot different if you only looked at first-world countries.They are counting suicides in “violent gun deaths”.
Look at gun homicides by country…
This is from 2015 but it hasn’t changed that much since….
International Firearm Homicide Rates - Gun Control - ProCon.org
According to the Small Arms Survey, out of 224 countries the United States had the 47th highest firearm homicide rate at 5.2 murders per 100,000 people in 2019. El Salvador reported the highest rate in 2019 at 42.72 gun homicides per 100,000 people. Brazil had the highest total number of firearm...
Rank Country Firearm Homicide Rate per 100,000 People Number of Firearm Homicides 1 Honduras 67.19 5,218 2 Venezuela 52.03 15,533 3 El Salvador 48.76 2,969 4 Jamaica 31.80 882 5 Guatemala 29.93 4,542 6 Belize 29.71 100 7 Colombia 26.76 12,442 8 Puerto Rico 25.12 932 9 Bahamas 24.82 91 10 Trinidad and Tobago 23.73 320 11 South Africa 19.11 10.097 12 Brazil 19.10 38,494 13 Lesotho 18.71 383 14 Afghanistan 14.84 4,148 15 Panama 14.35 536 16 Dominican Republic 13.32 1,356 17 Swaziland 10.87 134 18 Guyana 10.34 78 19 Haiti 9.46 973 20 Paraguay 9.35 585 21 Mexico 8.33 10,913 22 Iraq 8.32 2,742 23 Saint Kitts and Nevis 8.09 4 24 Saint Lucia 7.89 14 25 Philippines 6.89 6,616 25 Ecuador 6.89 842 27 Bolivia 6.40 657 28 Costa Rica 5.91 278 29 Nicaragua 5.56 325 30 Democratic Republic of the Congo 5.21 3,434 31 Pakistan 4.94 8.758 32 Barbados 4.92 14 33 Zimbabwe 4.68 682 34 Mauritania 4.55 172 35 Peru 4.46 1,347 36 Gabon 4.43 71 37 Yemen 4.39 1,092 38 Saudi Arabia 4.34 1,280 39 Botswana 4.20 90 40 Zambia 4.19 620 41 Thailand 4.08 2,741 42 Seychelles 4.00 4 43 Cameroon 3.88 840 44 Russia 3.80 5,446 45 Cape Verde 3.61 18 45 Togo 3.61 18 47 Cote d'Ivoire 3.54 748 48 Uruguay 3.53 120 49 Congo 3.36 144 50 Liberia 3.25 136 51 Central African Republic 3.17 146 52 Mali 3.16 508 53 Somalia 3.07 308 54 Burundi 3.05 309 55 Albania 3.02 88 56 Sao Tome and Principe 2.82 5 57 Sierra Leone 2.82 170 58 Papua New Guinea 2.81 201 58 Guinea 2.77 323 60 Comoros 2.72 20 61 United States 2.70 8,592 62 Guinea-Bissau 2.66 46 63 Senegal 2.60 46 64 Dominica 2.58 2 65 Djibouti 2.53 22 65 Gambia 2.53 46 67 Argentina 2.52 1,062 68 Niger 2.49 440 69 Oman 2.47 87 70 Sudan 2.45 925 71 Kenya 2.39 1,016 72 South Sudan 2.29 252 73 Kuwait 2.18 74 74 Burkina Faso 2.14 355 75 Namibia 2.12 48 76 Chad 2.11 269 77 Islamic Republic of Iran 2.05 1,561 78 Kiribati 2.03 2 79 United Arab Emierates 2.01 180 80 Lebanon 1.97 97 81 Montenegro 1.91 12 81 Jordan 1.91 133 83 Qatar 1.81 37 84 Grenada 1.79 2 85 Tonga 1.77 2 86 Benin 1.70 171 87 United Republic of Tanzania 1.65 805 87 Eritrea 1.65 81 89 Equatorial Guinea 1.61 12 89 Palestine 1.61 69