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Until we get the power grid up to standards to meet the demand for charging all of these vehicles we are going to struggle with rolling blackouts and restrictions/cost penalties for use in peak non-daylight hours. The current charging drain on the grid is already causing issues. Our system was not set up to have thousands of vehicles being charged over night.
A company I used to work for is selling a ton of power monitoring gear for pump motors due to the dirty power being pushed out onto the grid. Lots of pump motors getting toasted due to dirty power and that costs $$$ to repair replace. Better to monitor and shut down vs burning up and fighting the utility for the cost to repair replace.
EVs are awesome but we are not set up to handle the load they place on the grid and I'm not confident that we can get there in the next 15 years. I'm also concerned about the supply of rare earth minerals that are required to make batteries for these EVs. That is a finite resource and I think fuel cell technology will be a better path but it take power to generate hydrogen for refueling so there will still be a drain on the grid...
That noted, pre-Covid I was at a conference/trade show where a company was displaying a compact solar hydrogen generator for remote power gen that was pretty slick and looked promising so there is some hope.
A company I used to work for is selling a ton of power monitoring gear for pump motors due to the dirty power being pushed out onto the grid. Lots of pump motors getting toasted due to dirty power and that costs $$$ to repair replace. Better to monitor and shut down vs burning up and fighting the utility for the cost to repair replace.
EVs are awesome but we are not set up to handle the load they place on the grid and I'm not confident that we can get there in the next 15 years. I'm also concerned about the supply of rare earth minerals that are required to make batteries for these EVs. That is a finite resource and I think fuel cell technology will be a better path but it take power to generate hydrogen for refueling so there will still be a drain on the grid...
That noted, pre-Covid I was at a conference/trade show where a company was displaying a compact solar hydrogen generator for remote power gen that was pretty slick and looked promising so there is some hope.
Roughly 25 years ago Scientific American ran an article on a hydrogen-based grid where the liquid hydrogen was used to cool superconducting coaxial power lines and also as a hydrogen supply for fuel cells. The grid was replenished by nuke plants cracking water molecules.
Are we closer to that or further away than we were 25 years ago?
I like the idea of a compact solar hydrogen generator since it seems we'll all be generating our own power soon. You still need water to make hydrogen.
You mean those rare earth minerals that have been stockpiled by Communist China? Those same rare earth minerals that we could have mined ourselves, but instead the Obama administration used our military as private security for the Chinese so they could have a leg up in the trade war? Those rare earth minerals?
False (dichotomy).
What do you consider "over" regulation?
Which specific policy?
Brown's policy was no different than Newsome's.
How did we get from zero EVs on the roads to them comprising 10% of overall CA car sales in a decade, if the government is overregulating EV market?
What's illegal about Newsome's proposal?
If the ZEV regulation wasn't introduced in the 90s and additional regulation wasn't added over the years, the auto makers would still push gas guzzlers.
Why would they change if government didn't force them to?
The old 'let the market decide" myth has been disproved million times and you still don't get it.
What do you call people who don't learn from the facts?
Fück all would happen if the CA government didn't interfere. There's zero motivation for big car manufacturers to switch to EV, unless there's a regulation forcing them to.
EV is vastly superior to gas power, in every single possible way. The only reason not to switch is "because we've always done it that way".
Which is a right wing mantra.
Right, because you rely solely reliable sources.
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We're very far away from a hydrogen based grid. The Greenies will not allow any new nuke plants to be built in our or our children's lifetimes. There's a lot of water for hydrogen production. It can be pulled right out of the air. Plus the exhaust from the fuel celled powered whatever will be water. It's a closed loop in that regard.
Rolling blackouts because of EV cars?
Link?
The way power is being consumed in the US doesn't indicate shortage.
As for updating the grid, let's start with burrying the lines like all other 1st world countries.
Burying transmission lines before augmenting power generation capabilities? Look and see how much capability will be nearing or at the end of it’s lifecycle in 15 years and what new power generation is contemplated during the same time frame.
Solar farms aren’t gonna get consumer addicted californianos the fix they demand.
More nukes.
Why do you like wild fires and electrocutions so much?
If only we could cut the power consumption somehow.
Start at home. Specifically, your home. Make your own power with the smallest carbon footprint within your economical capabilities. Lead by example. Get back to us.Why do you like wild fires and electrocutions so much?
If only we could cut the power consumption somehow.
Okay, Im back.
What makes you think I'm not already doing it?
SDGE is pretty stocked with me, I'm using way less than my neighbors.
Fecal is in a better position to do that. My experience is all off the grid. See what Bud posted on greaseball’s thread.
Sure am.
Autoprax, I recommend moving to Mexico and avoid paying the electric bill all together.
Your welc.