Fook me- major back spasm

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Update- they sent me home with three prescriptions- naproxen (15 day supply), tramadol (opioid) 5 day supply and valium 3 day supply. All low dose. Already feel better. :p Wlked around the block. Took a nap. :sleep: Wife woke me up for dinner, I was sleeping soundly (had taken the opioid). If I can, I will shorten the duration of the medications- 7,4,2 days?

Then study for a PT/training regimen to get my ounce of prevention.......
 

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Update- they sent me home with three prescriptions- naproxen (15 day supply), tramadol (opioid) 5 day supply and valium 3 day supply. All low dose. Already feel better. :p Wlked around the block. Took a nap. :sleep: Wife woke me up for dinner, I was sleeping soundly (had taken the opioid). If I can, I will shorten the duration of the medications- 7,4,2 days?

Then study for a PT/training regimen to get my ounce of prevention.......
When I had my back problems, I found the opoids masked the pain, but didn't loosen the spasm. Be careful.

Also, the E.R. is for the duct tape patch, not the full repair. Follow up with a specialist. Especially if you get the sharp pain on the outside of your butt, down the outer thigh, outside of the calf muscle, to the ankle. Sciatica damage can take years to never to recover from
 

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When I had my back problems, I found the opoids masked the pain, but didn't loosen the spasm. Be careful.

Also, the E.R. is for the duct tape patch, not the full repair. Follow up with a specialist. Especially if you get the sharp pain on the outside of your butt, down the outer thigh, outside of the calf muscle, to the ankle. Sciatica damage can take years to never to recover from
Years to never...oh no.

Did they teach you this at handyman school?
 

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Years to never...oh no.

Did they teach you this at handyman school?
Do you always have to be a dumbfück? Don't you ever get tired of being an asshole? How old are you?

I had a herniated disk, went into the spinal canal, pinched the cord. Partially paralyzed left leg. Surgeon said we operate tonight, or you might not walk again.

It took about a year to walk without a limp, three years before I could lift my toes, and stand on my heel. 25 years later, I still can't stand and balance on my left leg, because some of it never came back.

So when I heard about a friend starting out with the,same symptoms I started with, I let him know what can happen if you don't get care.

You have a problem with that? Grow up.
 

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Do you always have to be a dumbfück? Don't you ever get tired of being an asshole? How old are you?

I had a herniated disk, went into the spinal canal, pinched the cord. Partially paralyzed left leg. Surgeon said we operate tonight, or you might not walk again.

It took about a year to walk without a limp, three years before I could lift my toes, and stand on my heel. 25 years later, I still can't stand and balance on my left leg, because some of it never came back.

So when I heard about a friend starting out with the,same symptoms I started with, I let him know what can happen if you don't get care.

You have a problem with that? Grow up.
Spare me your hurt feelings...you're one of the erbb's worst trolls.

If your story wasn't embellished, which I doubt, it would be as rare as getting struck by lightening. You left out the part about the car accident or other traumatic even that caused it.

To tell someone who is in pain and in a degree of emotional anguish about a unfamiliar pain event to freeze, one false move and you're a shopping cart is for you, stupid and for someone smarter irresponsible. So yeah, I have a problem with it.

Back pain isn't unusual and even if a negative pathology is present, like a herniated disc......is rarely significant. The problem is there is a large industry of healers out there that drill down into people the same bullshit you did above which does nothing more than build that emotional connection that even a slight discomfort means catastrophe is on the horizon unless they do A B and C of course.

Admittedly I don't know what your intentions were and I suspect they weren't to cause any harm was but for fucksSake you're smart and old enough to think before you say something.
 

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Spare me your hurt feelings...you're one of the erbb's worst trolls.

If your story wasn't embellished, which I doubt, it would be as rare as getting struck by lightening. You left out the part about the car accident or other traumatic even that caused it.

To tell someone who is in pain and in a degree of emotional anguish about a unfamiliar pain event to freeze, one false move and you're a shopping cart is for you, stupid and for someone smarter irresponsible. So yeah, I have a problem with it.

Back pain isn't unusual and even if a negative pathology is present, like a herniated disc......is rarely significant. The problem is there is a large industry of healers out there that drill down into people the same bullshit you did above which does nothing more than build that emotional connection that even a slight discomfort means catastrophe is on the horizon unless they do A B and C of course.

Admittedly I don't know what your intentions were and I suspect they weren't to cause any harm was but for fucksSake you're smart and old enough to think before you say something.
My injury came from lifting a compressor to put into my truck, which bulged the disk, then about a month later, throwing a round house kick in practice. A quick snap of the hip was all it took. According to the surgeon, that sort of twisting injury isn't uncommon at all.

Second, saying to someone to get to a specialist rather than an E.R. doctor isn't trolling, stupid or irresponsible. The E.R doctor I first saw gave me a cortisone shot in my spine, no xray, no MRI, no referral. If I hadn't followed up with an emergency visit to my primary, I would have been crippled. The time from my visit to the primary doctor to MRI to surgical consult to surgery was about 8 hours.

How's that for medical history?
 

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My injury came from lifting a compressor to put into my truck, which bulged the disk, then about a month later, throwing a round house kick in practice. A quick snap of the hip was all it took. According to the surgeon, that sort of twisting injury isn't uncommon at all.

Second, saying to someone to get to a specialist rather than an E.R. doctor isn't trolling, stupid or irresponsible. The E.R doctor I first saw gave me a cortisone shot in my spine, no xray, no MRI, no referral. If I hadn't followed up with an emergency visit to my primary, I would have been crippled. The time from my visit to the primary doctor to MRI to surgical consult to surgery was about 8 hours.

How's that for medical history?

Crippled. Oh no.
 

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If there was no traumatic event you probably pulled or ‘strained’ something. Your nerves are probably firing. You just need some time for inflammation to go down. I’m no doctor. That’s just what I tell myself when I have these events in lower back and neck. Not a fan of er or doctors.
 

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Play nice boys. Thanks for all the feedback.

Every- I didn't even see an MD at the ER. She was a PA. She said to follow up with my Primary ASAP. I already have an appointment with a Pain Management group in couple weeks for the issues I'm having with my neck (worn discs, pinching nerve).

Interestingly, with all the sh!t they've pumped into me, my neck feels great! Normally, when I'm doing my range of motion exercises, I hit my limit and there is obvious discomfort. Now I hit my spot and it feels fine. I'm not sure if it's a good Idea to to push it right now, though. The steroid injection was general not topical, they injected into my arm (that one burns!). That must be why my neck is better.

Von- I'm not a hypochondriac. I'm not viewing this as catastrophe, although possibly missing next weeks swell is bumming me out. ZtHe thing is there was no waring whatsoever. Surfing fine one second, paddling out as usual and boom. Done deal. I have been healthy as a horse my whole life (only previous issue was having the ears drilled for surfer's ear) and ever since I hit 58 years old (the age, by the way, when my dad died and his dad died, which makes for a certain apprehension) I'm getting hit with malady after malady, starting with the myocardial bridge diagnosis. I'm a couple years away from retirement and looking forward to mid week ,mid day surfing at out of the way spots with no crowds...and my body is falling apart. Fook me.
 

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I was scorpioned at wedge in my teens and have had back issues ever since. Sometimes my back goes bad just taking a dump. It’s how it is. I can take bad thrashings surfing and be fine but wipe the wrong way and I’m fooked.
 
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Play nice boys. Thanks for all the feedback.

Every- I didn't even see an MD at the ER. She was a PA. She said to follow up with my Primary ASAP. I already have an appointment with a Pain Management group in couple weeks for the issues I'm having with my neck (worn discs, pinching nerve).

Interestingly, with all the sh!t they've pumped into me, my neck feels great! Normally, when I'm doing my range of motion exercises, I hit my limit and there is obvious discomfort. Now I hit my spot and it feels fine. I'm not sure if it's a good Idea to to push it right now, though. The steroid injection was general not topical, they injected into my arm (that one burns!). That must be why my neck is better.

Von- I'm not a hypochondriac. I'm not viewing this as catastrophe, although possibly missing next weeks swell is bumming me out. ZtHe thing is there was no waring whatsoever. Surfing fine one second, paddling out as usual and boom. Done deal. I have been healthy as a horse my whole life (only previous issue was having the ears drilled for surfer's ear) and ever since I hit 58 years old (the age, by the way, when my dad died and his dad died, which makes for a certain apprehension) I'm getting hit with malady after malady, starting with the myocardial bridge diagnosis. I'm a couple years away from retirement and looking forward to mid week ,mid day surfing at out of the way spots with no crowds...and my body is falling apart. Fook me.
I hear you. My dad died at my age, as did his dad and it's a constant stressor.

You're 58 and have been very active. As a biped there are things that come with the territory and back pain is one of them. Thing is, in the past and still common today doctors have been quick to send patients for an MRI, which will surely for someone your age reveal some disc abnormality, be it desiccation, herniation etc. This would almost always result in a patient with the mindset that they were broken. It doesn't take a hypochondriac to feel pain from a pathologicly irrelevant issue. The most important advice I ever got was to just relax and realize this is normal and just be OK with it. Pain is never indicative of injury severity.

I know I'm beating a dead horse but there is training that will rectify much of these day to day maladies by increasing your bodies protection against injury, and believe it or not as a side benefit improve cardio vascular function. As RTS mentioned above, several years ago I fractured a vertebra getting pinned against the reef when I lived in Hawaii. I have since tweaked my back wiping my ass before. There was a period that I measured time by time between back injures.My diagnosis was herniated discs from L2 through S1 with a sequestered fragment at L3-L4 that was pressing against a nerve that gave me incredible pain throughout my right leg. I was as far along as meeting with the anathesiologist the week before my scheduled back surgery where another injury made a different surgery more urgent, and somehow gave me enough of a pause in my back pain that I was able to seek alternative advice. I've been for the most part pain free since (aside from normal stiffness that gravity heaps on us old guys) and haven't spent more than a couple days with nagging pain.

If anything else, shoot Havoc a direct message. He's found the cure.
 
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Pain is a signaling issue. It could be sigaling you that a tumor is growing in your back. It could be misreading "benign neural inputs."

numbness is a sign that the nerves are being traumatized.
 
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Sounds like you never stretch and are locked up.

Sit behind a desk?

Going to chiro wont help unless you loosen up. Tight muscles will just pull you out of alignment quick.

You should focus on soft tissue work with balls on your neck and back then gentle massage/flushing of those trouble spots always using a towards the heart motion. and then ice. In that order. Don't bother if you skip a step. Get your wife or significant other to massage/flush. 150 strokes on each spot. Want to get results and heal? Try this. Do not surf or work out. If you do you are going to hurt yourself bad. You should do this 2 times a day about an hour total each time. Use a lacrosse ball. Find the spot. Lay on it 60 seconds. Find the other spot. Do the same. Get a yoga block so you can use the balls on your neck. Stuff balls in a sock and tie it off. Good to get both sides of your neck.
 

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My back pain became chronic. I have a very simple morning routing of stretches, push-ups, “super mans”, and squats that have helped greatly. I know ops pain is new and sudden, but also consider your bed. A new, firm mattress has also done wonders.

My most recent issues I narrowed down to new shoes.

When I get sudden unexplained pain like this, I ask myself what have I changed recently
 
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