FDA just lost a historic ivermectin lawsuit

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Here is the story reported accurately By the evil leftists media. You must not have looked very hard.

The case was settled, not adjudicated, and the end result is the FDA agreed to remove social media posts from 2021.

That’s it.
With all due respect, CNN hasn't reported anything "accurately" in a really longgg time.
 

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Your doctor can prescribe meth, (the military uses a lot of it) cocaine (as a topical anesthetic) and yes human grade pharmaceutical Ivermectin has been given to literally billions of people world wide.

And "off label" usage of medications is done all the time. It's a thing.

You guys know you can Google this sh!t right?

If someone has a pharmacy tell them they couldn't fill a prescription for Ivermectin, it was probably due to their insurance company refusing to pay. I'm guessing if the patient had offered to pay cash they would have had to fill it. I know other people that did exactly that.
Wow so you took my post literally? Ok.

Do you think FDA shouldn't exist?
 
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With all due respect, CNN hasn't reported anything "accurately" in a really longgg time.
Newsweek and Bloomberg report it exa the same way.



But OK
 
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moves the goal posts and gets hysterical with the hyperbole and emotional language
There was a coordinated attack by the FDA, big pharma and the media to smear anyone who mentioned it. Hence the “horse paste”, dishonest memes, Joe Rogans N-word compilation that magically appeared shortly after his IVM episode, ER gunshot victims being displaced by overdoses etc. This isn’t even debatable.

Why else would the media post such a blatantly BS story? Remind me again what sector accounts for the vast majority of their ad revenue :unsure: :poke:

This had little to do with lack of efficacy and everything to do with protecting the vaccines and EUA

it was profit protection...actually it wasn't...it was "vicious attacks" for some unstated reason
Actually the reasons have been quite clearly stated several times now :poke:
 

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moves the goal posts and gets hysterical with the hyperbole and emotional language

it was profit protection...actually it wasn't...it was "vicious attacks" for some unstated reason

lolololol

ineffective and a snipe hunt for antivaxtards FOR antivaxtards

the institutional push back was because it didn't fkn work and people were doing stupid things with it


looking forward to your next shift in the goal posts, DUFFMAN!



as has been pointed out by someone far smarter than your retarded ass, your article lies by omission. it's not the win you think it is. it's a bunch of 5th circuit loons trying to litigate never forgetter idiocy after the fact when it is totally.fkn.irrelevant....
Can you ever use a non-biased soruce?
 
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There was a coordinated attack by the FDA, big pharma and the media to smear anyone who mentioned it. Hence the “horse paste”, dishonest memes, Joe Rogans N-word compilation that magically appeared shortly after his IVM episode, ER gunshot victims being displaced by overdoses etc. This isn’t even debatable.

Why else would the media post such a blatantly BS story? Remind me again what sector accounts for the vast majority of their ad revenue :unsure: :poke:

This had little to do with lack of efficacy and everything to do with protecting the vaccines and EUA


Actually the reasons have been quite clearly stated several times now :poke:
The FDA hasn’t changed its position on ivermectin for COVID and still no studies I’m aware of show it to be effective.

Is the whole world in on the scam? Would China not have treated Covid with ivermectin had it worked? Would Merck not be incentivized to recreate ivermectin in a new, patented form if it worked?

At what point does the FDA lose the ability to advise on medication use? One of its main purposes is to regulate drugs. What if instead of ivermectin the go to “cure” was cyanide? Would yo expect the FDA to remain silent?
 
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Maybe your doctor knew something the insurance company didn't? Which one of them has a medical degree? :poke:
This is not the gotcha you think it is. I actually agree that it’s a problem when insurance company cubicle jockeys are making decisions that supersede doctors orders. My point is that it is constantly happening and isn’t some big covid related conspiracy to suppress ivermectin treatments the way many want to see it.
 

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The FDA hasn’t changed its position on ivermectin for COVID and still no studies I’m aware of show it to be effective.

Is the whole world in on the scam? Would China not have treated Covid with ivermectin had it worked? Would Merck not be incentivized to recreate ivermectin in a new, patented form if it worked?
Again- it was the way the campaign was launched and the tactics used that was insane.

At what point does the FDA lose the ability to advise on medication use? One of its main purposes is to regulate drugs. What if instead of ivermectin the go to “cure” was cyanide? Would yo expect the FDA to remain silent?
Using an example of one of the most dangerous substances with one that has been taken by several billion people with minimal side effects. Totally valid comparison! :roflmao:
 
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There was a coordinated attack by the FDA, big pharma and the media to smear anyone who mentioned it. Hence the “horse paste”, dishonest memes, Joe Rogans N-word compilation that magically appeared shortly after his IVM episode, ER gunshot victims being displaced by overdoses etc. This isn’t even debatable.

Why else would the media post such a blatantly BS story? Remind me again what sector accounts for the vast majority of their ad revenue :unsure: :poke:

This had little to do with lack of efficacy and everything to do with protecting the vaccines and EUA


Actually the reasons have been quite clearly stated several times now :poke:
omg, the victimhood mentality...do you hear yourself?

"coordinated attack...to smear!"

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

Ivermectin did not work. it had already run it's course and then Joetard goes on the air to talk it up so all the neverforgettards could continue their antivax oppositional tantrums

Joe Rogan is a fkn moron

people taking medical advice from a moron deserve all the mockery (AND SMEARING) in the world

no one needed to protect the vaccines... ivermectin didn't fkn work. no one had to do ANYTHING to "smear" ivermectin, and it certainly was not a fkn conspiracy to "protect...[the] EUA"

I don't know why you insist on continuing to make up conspiracy theories out of thin air for something that has a very clear and obvious explanation, but one that you just so happen to dislike
 
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omg, the victimhood mentality...do you hear yourself?

"coordinated attack...to smear!"

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

Ivermectin did not work. it had already run it's course and then Joetard goes on the air to talk it up so all the neverforgettards could continue their antivax oppositional tantrums

Joe Rogan is a fkn moron
Then please explain the origin of a completely fabricated story about ER deaths.

And who found the time to comb through 10K+ hours of Rogan podcasts to find examples of the N word, and why it happened to drop within weeks of the IVM episode. What a coincidence!

people taking medical advice from a moron deserve all the mockery (AND SMEARING) in the world
An unvaxxed moron who beat the virus in days?

no one needed to protect the vaccines... ivermectin didn't fkn work. no one had to do ANYTHING to smear it and it certainly was not a fkn conspiracy to "protect...[the] EUA"

There is some data suggesting it could help, like the study posted above. It does stop viral replication. We saw the same thing with the public messaging refusing to mention Vitamin D. Anything that stole an ounce of thunder from the vaccine was a threat and big pharma made sure the media pushed the message they wanted.

I don't know why you insist on continuing to make up conspiracy theories out of thin air for something that has a very clear and obvious explanation, but one that you just so happen to dislike
It’s not a conspiracy when it’s that blatant and obvious. Big pharma is 75% of ad revenue not because they actually get a lot of consumer interest, it’s because it gives them several seats at the table to control the narrative. You are a complete idiot if you don’t at least acknowledge the influence they have.
 
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omg, the victimhood mentality...do you hear yourself?

"coordinated attack...to smear!"

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

Ivermectin did not work. it had already run it's course and then Joetard goes on the air to talk it up so all the neverforgettards could continue their antivax oppositional tantrums

Joe Rogan is a fkn moron

people taking medical advice from a moron deserve all the mockery (AND SMEARING) in the world

no one needed to protect the vaccines... ivermectin didn't fkn work. no one had to do ANYTHING to "smear" ivermectin, and it certainly was not a fkn conspiracy to "protect...[the] EUA"

I don't know why you insist on continuing to make up conspiracy theories out of thin air for something that has a very clear and obvious explanation, but one that you just so happen to dislike
The vaccines absolutely needed to be protected because all they did was make people sick (both acute and chronic) and otherwise not do anything

The establishment changed the definition of vaccine ffs

All these things actually happened. You don't need to call them conspiracy theories just because you don't like facing the truth about it
 
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Again- it was the way the campaign was launched and the tactics used that was insane.


Using an example of one of the most dangerous substances with one that has been taken by several billion people with minimal side effects. Totally valid comparison! :roflmao:
It was intentionally extreme. You would expect the government to act then, yes? So where does that duty stop? There were no studies showing ivermectin worked. There were literally people taking medicine intended for horses.

And the whole “campaign“ thing is overstated. The FDA took a position and the media jumped on it because people were going to vets to get it. It made a great story.

For the conspiracy to work, it has to be vaccine for full prevention or the ivermectin for full cure. Since the vaccine was known not to prevent people from getting it, treatment was still necessary. Had there been any proof ivermectin worked, it would have been used and promoted just like the antivirals were. Treatment after infection would supplement, not replace, the push for vaccines.

The fact remains that there is still zero proof ivermectin is an effective treatment for Covid. It’s been 3 years. The FDA was right.
 

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The vaccines absolutely needed to be protected because all they did was make people sick (both acute and chronic) and otherwise not do anything

The establishment changed the definition of vaccine ffs

All these things actually happened. You don't need to call them conspiracy theories just because you don't like facing the truth about it
That's completely wrong, but OK.
 
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The vaccines absolutely needed to be protected because all they did was make people sick (both acute and chronic) and otherwise not do anything

The establishment changed the definition of vaccine ffs

All these things actually happened. You don't need to call them conspiracy theories just because you don't like facing the truth about it
I was vaccinated and never got sick. My wife and teenage kids were vaccinated and didn’t get sick. Not a single person I know got sick from the vaccine, short term or long. But every vaccine comes with side effects, some severe. Why would you assume this would be different?

And what do you think changes to the definition of a vaccine would have done lol? Does the FDA have the ability to change the definition of a word? Does Websters take orders from the FDA? Is this the part of “the flu vaccine is a shot not a vaccine” thing? They could have called it a Bugs Bunny and it would not have changed the nature of the inoculation.