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My take would be that a discussion of hyper-empathy syndrome in a discussion about empathy would be rather relevant to the discussion.What I don't understand is why bring up a mental disorder in a discussion about empathy?
Unregulated empathy is why we destroyed the world economy over a coldAs Autoprax is fond of saying: The poison is the dose. That video doesn't say empathy is bad. It says is can be bad, unregulated.
Says the guy who wanted old people to die so he doesn't have to wear a mask for 5 minutes in a public space.Unregulated empathy is why we destroyed the world economy over a cold
But again, empathy is not that.My take would be that a discussion of hyper-empathy syndrome in a discussion about empathy would be rather relevant to the discussion.
Empathy holds the same danger as hyper-empathyBut again, empathy is not that.
You're talking about a mental disorder.
Yes. Hyper-empathy syndrome has been called a mental disorder. It's obviously related to empathy. It's empathy taken to an unhealthy extreme.But again, empathy is not that.
You're talking about a mental disorder.
If empathy is about feeling, but compassion is about action, wouldn’t it be compassion that you’re trying to blame?Unregulated empathy is why we destroyed the world economy over a cold
It is relevant, but why has a pathology become the focus of this thread? To be empathetic is one of our greatest traits.My take would be that a discussion of hyper-empathy syndrome in a discussion about empathy would be rather relevant to the discussion.
I have a friend I grew up with that is a true sociopath. I know how to deal with it, I know how far I can trust him, and I know his limitations. He's aware of the situation and he has tried to take steps to mitigate it. "I know I'm not right in the head bro." It's kind of sad. But by the same token, it must be incredibly liberating. I've watched him over the decades and marveled at what he can do with no conscience/guilt/remorse. Doesn't give a fvvk sometimes. Some people say they don't give a fvvk, he just doesn't. It's pure.
Sometimes compassion is used to refer broadly to sympathetic understanding:Our rationalizations for lying (or withholding the truth)—"to protect her," "he could never handle it”—come more out of cowardice than compassion.
— Eric Utne, Utne Reader, November/December 1992
Empathy refers to the ability to relate to another person’s pain vicariously, as if one has experienced that pain themselves:Nevertheless, when Robert Paxton's "Vichy France" appeared in a French translation in 1973, his stark and devastating description ... was rather badly received in France, where many critics accused this scrupulous and thoughtful young historian either of misinterpreting the Vichy leaders' motives or of lacking compassion.
— Stanley Hoffmann, The New York Times Book Review, 1 Nov. 1981
In some cases, compassion refers to both a feeling and the action that stems from that feeling:For instance, people who are highly egoistic and presumably lacking in empathy keep their own welfare paramount in making moral decisions like how or whether to help the poor.
— Daniel Goleman, The New York Times, 28 Mar. 1989
"The man thought all this talk was fine, but he was more concerned with just getting water. And, if I was going to be successful on this mission, I had to remember what his priorities were. The quality you need most in United Nations peacekeeping is empathy."
— Geordie Elms, quoted in MHQ: The Quarterly Journal of Military History, Autumn 1992
while empathy tends to be used just for a feeling:Compassion, tenderness, patience, responsibility, kindness, and honesty are actions that elicit similar responses from others.
— Jane Smiley, Harper’s, June 2000
She is also autistic, a disability that she argues allows her a special empathy with nonhuman creatures.
— Tim Flannery, The New York Review of Books, 29 April 2009
So was the response to Covid that ifall is referring to more empathetic or compassionate?Time for the dictionary.
Websters
What is the difference between empathy and compassion?
Some of our users are interested in the difference between empathy and compassion. Compassion is the broader word: it refers to both an understanding of another’s pain and the desire to somehow mitigate that pain:
Sometimes compassion is used to refer broadly to sympathetic understanding:
Empathy refers to the ability to relate to another person’s pain vicariously, as if one has experienced that pain themselves:
In some cases, compassion refers to both a feeling and the action that stems from that feeling:
while empathy tends to be used just for a feeling:
I'd say the pathology has become a focus largely because of the resistance to the concept. Accept it and move on. Just about any quality/trait can be taken to an unhealthy extreme.It is relevant, but why has a pathology become the focus of this thread? To be empathetic is one of our greatest traits.
I was in a relationship with someone like that. She was aware that she was fcked up and knew what she did and how it affected people. Was in analysis 4 days a week and on antipsychotic medication but couldn't stop herself and wasn't very interested in trying to. One of the smartest people I've ever met and had a truly magical quality about her, but she had an evil side that was bottomless
I think you are splitting hairs.So was the response to Covid that ifall is referring to more empathetic or compassionate?
That seems to be the nature of sh!t.I'd say the pathology has become a focus largely because of the resistance to the concept. Accept it and move on. Just about any quality/trait can be taken to an unhealthy extreme.
Yeah, the person I am talking about is extremely talented in a number of things. He'd have been far more successful/well-known if he had been able to reign himself in. I've told him this. He gets it. But by the same token it's like he just can't stop himself. When we were younger I fully remember wondering what it must be like. Jewish mothers have nothing on my Norwegian mother. Guild and shame are my middle names. Imagine all of that gone. How freeing. Although it did seem to catch up with eventually. sh!t seems to stack up as you age doesn't it?
I like how you talk about balance but then go into a narcissistic rant. You are incapable of ANY empathy. Zero.Empathy holds the same danger as hyper-empathy
Stoic reason without empathy holds an equal, yet opposite danger
There has to be a balance
For example, stealing freedom from billions so thousands might not die is not balanced
The current estimate is over 6 million deaths globally.stealing freedom from billions so thousands might not die is not balanced
There's resistance to the idea that empathy isn't all peaches and cream, really?I'd say the pathology has become a focus largely because of the resistance to the concept.
All you have to do is look who defends and stands behind this narcissistic asshole.
A functioning sociopath can be a valuable member of the tribe.My take would be that a discussion of hyper-empathy syndrome in a discussion about empathy would be rather relevant to the discussion.
I have a friend I grew up with that is a true sociopath. I know how to deal with it, I know how far I can trust him, and I know his limitations. He's aware of the situation and he has tried to take steps to mitigate it. "I know I'm not right in the head bro." It's kind of sad. But by the same token, it must be incredibly liberating. I've watched him over the decades and marveled at what he can do with no conscience/guilt/remorse. Doesn't give a fvvk sometimes. Some people say they don't give a fvvk, he just doesn't. It's pure.