If you have a flexible schedule and can go surf when the wind switches on the EC, you can get enough waves to call yourself a surfer. If you are a 9-5er and have no flexibility and your wife runs you, you're fukced.
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East vs. West
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SoCal and Santa Cruz, yes. Elsewhere, the dream is still alive. I had a six people over 300 yards of grunty, HH+ good beachbreak. A glassy afternoon completely alone in chest high tapered runners. A sunny Sunday with 5-6 people on each peak, and the one I was surfing, I was the only person they didn't know by name, and I got every third left as if I went to Pre-K with them. They even waited in order during lulls vs re-scrumming for priority.
I dunno man. I’d like to hear what that 1 or 2 spots is that compares to rincon. I do agree there are spots in the east that hold their weight on the right days to the west coast, and many other places, and are even better than probably 95% of them. But I cant think of anywhere that compares to the queen over here. Ive surfed most of the NE, but maybe I just missed those spots
May PJ and some mysto spots on the Islands on an end of the world hurricane swell, but probably not. Edit, Do we include Nova Scotia in the EC?
PJ, no freaking way. I spent a lot of time surfing that wave.
I don’t think there’s a point in the northeast that matches the length and, opportunity, for length of barrel in the east.
if NS is included I could see that possibly changing things.
I don’t think there’s a point in the northeast that matches the length and, opportunity, for length of barrel in the east.
if NS is included I could see that possibly changing things.
I’ve lived in the east I’m from the west, lived in australia Too.
clearly rincon is the best wave in the continental USA when it’s on. It’s the only wave I’ve surfed in America that compares to Australian points like snapper, Lennox, burleigh, angourie etc…
an average east coast beach break with swell is hands down better than most west coast beach break and average spots. Going back to comparison with blacks though again you are comparing world class when it’s on.
im not going to name spots but NH has right and left points, and just south has pumping beach break that rival the majority of west coast beach break
i will concede that Our best west coast spots are better than the best east coast spots but compared to Australia both of your coasts suck dick
Consistency is crap in the east coast and flexibility is king. Without flexibility it’s near impossible to score.
Since this has turned into a friendly debate, I’ll disagree with you on that NH beach break.
although south of there is a stretch of beach break that rivals anywhere as far as a beach break goes.
although south of there is a stretch of beach break that rivals anywhere as far as a beach break goes.
Keenfish can post some Newport pictures that are representative of the way I knew it in the early 70’s. Like a bunch of pictures.
@keenfish pay attention.
The wave I am thinking of will eat that spot for brekkie. NSB looks like a fun rippable beachie, but I’m talking barrels.
i think we are thinking of the same spot. South as In close but not in NH. The beach break in NH is mediocre.but the spot I’m thinking of has heaving barrels when it’s on and is consistently hollow when it breaks.
Ya'll are comparing a once every 3 years swell at a particular spot or two to an average day in california. "That swell back in 84 was as good as a mediocre day at rincon, then the army corps of engineers came in...."
29 degrees when I paddled out this morning. No wind. Sun warming me as it got higher. Official water temperature was 39 but I think it was a bit warmer than that. Two sessions by 1:00. Waves weren't epic, chest to shoulder high and glassy . Wish there had been a little more power. 50 to 60 yard rides on a shortboard. Crowd at the jetty I was at peaked at 3 other than myself. Just good fun. I'll take it.
Right on I thought you meant still in NH. If we’re talking about the same spot I had a pretty intense obsession with the zone and dropped anything at the hint of decent swell up there. Got some of the best barrels of my life there.
be honest with yourself...how often is rincon actually good? Its horribly inconsistent as is any wave north of there and south of pt. conception.
Yes the SE sucks and is much worse than california but new england has numerous swells a year at spots that have california quality waves. and an average beachbreak in the northeast has more power and is more hollow than an average socal beachbreak. newport/HB and los angeles are no better quality and arguably just as closed out if not more than new jersey or outer banks. The east coast 100% lacks consistency compared to california for sure.
East coasters from some reason love to fetishize the west coast when in really it's mostly a stretch of crowded, mushy, mediocre waves at all but the standout spots when they are good. I live in NCSD and we have great waves like Swamis and I can count on my 2 hands the number of days its actually gets good every year and if worth surfing on anything besides a longboard. Blacks although it pulls in a lot of swell is a crowded closeout most of the time.
my reference point is to socal mostly but santa cruz north shits on everywhere else in the country for quality and consistency.
if we are thinking of the same place and i will leave the name off for respect of locals it produces some of the very best beach break I have ever surfed without much crowd. When its on its really really on and rivals anything beach break wise i've seen in california or australia
agreed, Rincon may have 10 stand out days on a really good year and it doesn't break all the time. A lot of crap waves in CA too, just more varied setups that can handle a wider variety of swells. East OZ gets very good, many hollow shorter period setups and probably has many more good days a year than CA or EC US
If consistency is taken into play I think rincon still wins. I just don’t think there is any point break that is comparable in the NE. And the NE is dreadfully inconsistent for any kind of quality as well so it’s not like that zone irks out ahead based on that category.
even Malibu is going to be a longer wave than just about anywhere in the NE, albeit no barrel factor like the con.
100% agree about CA largely being overblown, which probably gets overlooked by most due to excitement of a surf trip and nspots.
even Malibu is going to be a longer wave than just about anywhere in the NE, albeit no barrel factor like the con.
100% agree about CA largely being overblown, which probably gets overlooked by most due to excitement of a surf trip and nspots.
snapper shits on just about anything in california not to mention the other points and Dbah is crazy consistent all sorts of rippable. and the northern NSW points like lennox and angourie are insane as are the beachbreaks if you can get over the shark pucker factor. plus the water is super warm most of the year
best california spots and especially point breaks are 100% better in california than east coast. The truth is though most people arent surfing those spots and they only get a good a handful of times per year.
Nothing compares to rincon, malibu, steamer lane, LJ reefs etc...but you are right california is way overblown when compared to other surf meccas such as central/south america, australia, indo, hawaii, puerto rico etc...
New Hampshire is one of the few states on the east coast I haven't surf in, so I'll have to take your word for it. Always seemed to me to be flat and cold for weeks at a time then occasionally a very good day where everyone drives up to crowd a couple freezing cold spots. I don't surf nearly as competently with gloves boot hood so maybe I'm just too slow to realize the goodness.
California was very fun even on "small" days.