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Done with Xcel. Need a new warm hooded 5/4
- Thread starter rgruber
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If they cared about making warm suits they never would have stopped.
Hard to speak for right coasters but 30 degree southern CA or even Central is different then 30 degree East coast and I am not talking about Hawiian scale talkin' pure snow on beach no sun.
mutant was on my list as my next one.. need to refill my wetuit quiver moving from thickest down
LOl I feel that with Xcel! Had a couple with the same problem. I actually liked the suits but that was annoying.
I’m not aware of any time in history when you couldn’t buy an Isurus with smooth skin.
But they CANNOT compete with a Hyperfreak on any dimension except for maybe drying time
They are so close to nailing it but unfortunately, they are just way more expensive, much more restrictive, flush significantly more, and aren't really warmer than a Hyperfreak.
I had two 4/3's a few years ago, that were basically the same stretchy material, like an O'nell Psycho 1, but probably not as warm.
That’s what I recently started wearing unless it’s really cold.
Then I switch to the Isurus which is not as flexible but way warmer.
For what its worth, the Medium xcel fit me perfectly and the medium feral is almost a dead match in sizing; the only minor difference is the lack of a pre-molded knee bend, so there's a minor amount of bunching in my knee-pitts, but maybe thats just me.
Their pricing model is actually pretty weird too; I'd consider them a bit expensive for a 3/2 or 4/3, but their 5/4 and 6/5/4 are a steal compared to the other similar suits on the market.
Does feral use the same Yamamoto (#40 or whatever) rubber on the thicker suits? I imagine the low water absorption would make it warmer than other rubber
Based on their website they use the #40 yamamoto, not that I could tell you anything about what that means other than that seems to be the gold standard for wetsuit rubber.
I obviously haven't tried every suit, but its the best suit I've tried.
1. Isurus, as started by Jim B but know he's no longer there.
OR
2. Jim's new company since he split with Isurus: Winterleaf Wetsuits. www.winterleaf.surf
Same great guy, new great company.