Have any of you been watching that History channel series "Vikings"???
Exactly where in hell did they go wrong???
Exactly where in hell did they go wrong???
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Does the Bern stand a chance?
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Comparing ANY of the Scandinavian countries to America is lame. What works for them won't necessarily work for us, and vice-versa.
We are this huge, sprawling, wildly heterogeneous and diverse country of 330 million people mostly descended from immigrants, and have a historical culture of elevating and enabling personal achievement of the self over the collective. Plus we were born in large part as a revolt against unfair taxation.
They are small, about the size of Minnesota or maybe Nevada, with a population the size of LA County, except for everybody is white, fairly well educated, and comes from a culture that highly values maintaining social stability above all else. Plus they have a very long history of paying high taxes and they are OK with that.
We are this huge, sprawling, wildly heterogeneous and diverse country of 330 million people mostly descended from immigrants, and have a historical culture of elevating and enabling personal achievement of the self over the collective. Plus we were born in large part as a revolt against unfair taxation.
They are small, about the size of Minnesota or maybe Nevada, with a population the size of LA County, except for everybody is white, fairly well educated, and comes from a culture that highly values maintaining social stability above all else. Plus they have a very long history of paying high taxes and they are OK with that.
If unlimited healthcare is deemed "a right", then food, water, housing, utilities and most other "necessities" of modern day convenience should be considered "a right" and basically free also. Why even work, if you can get all those basics for free?
I'd just prefer my free house on the beach in La Jolla, thank you.
Oh wait, those are reserved for guv employ management handing those "basics" out, along with any corpo mucky mucks left over.
I'd just prefer my free house on the beach in La Jolla, thank you.
Oh wait, those are reserved for guv employ management handing those "basics" out, along with any corpo mucky mucks left over.
Yeah living in a house in LaJolla for free is exactly the same as not dying of cancer.
Also, people pay taxes to get healthcare, it's not "free".
Stop lying and using shitty analogies.
Do you think he is trying to lose now?
He wants the voters to put him out of his misery?
But he can't cut his own throat?
I like how all the retards ignore that fact that Bernie won't be able to get the plan through congress of the senate.
People are making too much money with the status quo.
I love how the rich people are afraid of Bernie making America in to a socialist country.
Obama couldn't even get single payer.
The ACA is a republican invention.
People are making too much money with the status quo.
I love how the rich people are afraid of Bernie making America in to a socialist country.
Obama couldn't even get single payer.
The ACA is a republican invention.
I feel like this is three, possibly four, logical fallacies all co-mingled
together in a soup of stupidity
I think pardoning white collar criminals who all deserved the sentences they got might cost Trump some votes. I despise most pardons and commutations just on general principle.
Then if people pay taxes to get healthcare, other people's money should pay for my car, house, food, water, and everything else.
Tell me what makes healthcare different than any other market commodity that we need.
Food and water, shelter, sanitation, even electricity/gas are more important to overall survival than healthcare- shouldn't these things be "rights" too?
One difference is the coerced conscription - under penalty of law - of everyone who previously chose to go with limited benefits or risk-based pricing or to even forego buying coverage altogether. The abolition of their right to exercise their own "my body, my choice" decisions.
Under even the most charitable interpretation, these programs amount to an example of people trading their liberties off in exchange for security.
Under even the most charitable interpretation, these programs amount to an example of people trading their liberties off in exchange for security.
Doubt the beach front is populated by guvmint clerks. Way more likely they work for insurance companies and big Pharma, and the people who lend them money.