Curious with the benefit of hindsight what the collective thought of the erbb is on this question: Do you believe Covid was a lab manipulated virus that somehow got out of a lab and into the population? Totally anonymous poll.
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Do You Believe Covid was a lab manipulated virus that somehow got out of a lab? Anonymous Poll.
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No it was not. China has been nothing but transparent and cooperative and they have no reason to lie. I trust that the information they have shared with us is 100% truthful.
Is this your opinion or is this based on actual knowledge?
could i be convinced that the lab leak hypothesis is supported? yes, if scientific evidence was provided.
does the current scientific evidence support the natural origin of covid? yes, very much so.
www.science.org
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www.nature.com
does the current scientific evidence support the natural origin of covid? yes, very much so.
Science | AAAS
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Evidence suggests pandemic came from nature, not a lab, panel says
New report takes sides in debate over COVID-19’s origins
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Wuhan market was epicentre of pandemic’s start, studies suggest
Report authors say that the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 jumped to people from animals sold at the market on two occasions in late 2019 — but some scientists want more definitive evidence.
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How do we go about obtaining such evidence from a country that is known for suppressing the truth and has every reason not to cooperate?could i be convinced that the lab leak hypothesis is supported? yes, if scientific evidence was provided.
does the current scientific evidence support the natural origin of covid? yes, very much so.
Science | AAAS
Evidence suggests pandemic came from nature, not a lab, panel says
New report takes sides in debate over COVID-19’s origins
Wuhan market was epicentre of pandemic’s start, studies suggest
Report authors say that the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 jumped to people from animals sold at the market on two occasions in late 2019 — but some scientists want more definitive evidence.
at this point does it matter? it got out, it spread. now please stfu about it already so the rest of us can go with our lives.
The words of a stupid man doomed to repeating the same mistakes.....which is fine if you're the only one paying for your idiocy.
How do we go about obtaining such evidence from a country that is known for suppressing the truth and has every reason not to cooperate?
Genomic data that's very readily available. Come on, you're getting more and more like GrossFlab every day.
From what nearby lab did the 2003 SARS leak? From what lab did the MERS virus leak? What about Ebola?
Maybe some of you should read this, from 2012. The author (by way of published scientific reports) predicted a new SARS that would be much more deadly, would become a pandemic, and would likely originate in China or Hong Kong.
China defiantly screwed the pooch on this one.
That is not a right/left issue.
Gross Norbert is so stupid.
That is not a right/left issue.
Gross Norbert is so stupid.
“Conclusion
As noted by the WHO Scientific Advisory Group for the Origins of Novel Pathogens, the COVID- 19 Lancet Commission, and the U.S. Office of the Director of National Intelligence 90-Day Assessment on the COVID-19 Origins, more information is needed to arrive at a more precise, if not a definitive, understanding of the origins of SARS-CoV-2 and how the COVID-19 pandemic began.225 Governments, leaders, public health officials, and scientists involved in addressing the COVID-19 pandemic and working to prevent future pandemics, must commit to greater transparency, engagement, and responsibility in their efforts.
Based on the analysis of the publicly available information, it appears reasonable to conclude that the COVID-19 pandemic was, more likely than not, the result of a research-related incident. New information, made publicly available and independently verifiable, could change this assessment. However, the hypothesis of a natural zoonotic origin no longer deserves the benefit of the doubt, or the presumption of accuracy.“
COVID-19 Origins: Investigating a “Complex and Grave Situation” Inside a Wuhan Lab
The Wuhan lab at the center of suspicions about the pandemic’s onset was far more troubled than known, documents unearthed by a Senate team reveal. Tracing the evidence, Vanity Fair and ProPublica give the clearest view yet of a biocomplex in crisis.
www.propublica.org
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The mistake of what, exactly? Living in the US while China nay or may not be engineering viruses? How do we not repeat this mistake?
We get Gromsdad n Mike Jones to do some sleuthing for us.How do we go about obtaining such evidence from a country that is known for suppressing the truth and has every reason not to cooperate?
It's amazing how people completely ignore the published scientific work but also get caught up in the senate reports and media hype.
Assuming it was an engineered virus that escaped from a lab, one would hope that identifying that mistake, learning from that mistake, figuring out what went wrong, could perhaps prevent this from occurring again with a far more deadly virus down the road. Say something with a 90% fatality rate?
why doesn't anyone care if China releases sniffle-hoax viruses with very low mortality rates?