Defunding the post office to rig an election

[Autoprax]

I think the motivated reasoning is a trip.

The pro trump people are like, "What's the big deal? He's just defunding the post office so he can win the election. So what?"

If Hillary won and did that . . . .

 

[Sharkbiscuit]

I'm fine with voting in person, but I think deployed military and Trump's family living in DC but registered elsewhere might have an issue with it.

But again, if absolutely nobody can vote via absentee ballot, I'm cool with it.

 

[mundus]

I think the motivated reasoning is a trip.

The pro trump people are like, "What's the big deal? He's just defunding the post office so he can win the election. So what?"

If Hillary won and did that . . . .

Once again there is nothing Trump can do that wont be defended by his cult. Republicans have shown time and time again they want less people voting.

 

[hal9000]

I think the motivated reasoning is a trip.

The pro trump people are like, "What's the big deal? He's just defunding the post office so he can win the election. So what?"

If Hillary won and did that . . . .

Adolf Twittler screams NO FAIR because all the votes are not for him.

How many people in flyover states vote by mail?

Trumby votes by mail.

 

[GDaddy]

Vote in person. Problem solved.

I've never seen a polling station that wasn't configured to socially distance the voter from everyone else inside the building. There's really no reason a polling station couldn't be set up outside on a part of a football field at the local high school.

In terms of protecting people from the China Virus, voting in person is way safer that shopping for groceries. Which almost everyone does every single week.

 

[hal9000]

I've never seen a polling station that wasn't configured to socially distance the voter from everyone else inside the building. There's really no reason a polling station couldn't be set up outside on a part of a football field at the local high school.

In terms of protecting people from the China Virus, voting in person is way safer that shopping for groceries. Which almost everyone does every single week.

That is a fair point. As long as everyone wears a mask and keeps their distance, it's probably fine.

Maybe allow polling locations to stay open longer.

 

[GWS_2]

25 Billion dollars for the Post Office to handle mail in votes seems like a lot. I’m not opposed to it, but that’s a big pile of money.

 

[hal9000]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1293897580544512002

 

[GWS_2]

25 Billion dollars for the Post Office to handle mail in votes seems like a lot. I’m not opposed to it, but that’s a big pile of money.

So if I have this right 3.5 billion is to handle the ballots but the whole package is 25 billion for the post office?

What do they do at Christmas time?

 

[Sharkbiscuit]

25 Billion dollars for the Post Office to handle mail in votes seems like a lot. I’m not opposed to it, but that’s a big pile of money.

It seems like a lot because it is a lot and that's not what it's for by a long shot.

It's a complete re-funding, new vehicles, other infrastructure etc.

It's not $25B to deal with absentee ballots.

 

[Autoprax]

If a Dem was doing this to win the election, I would be horrified.

I'm kinda horrified by JB.

But . . .

 

[GWS_2]

I just got that from a talking head on CNN. Then I looked up a CNN article and they clarified that the estimate for the mail in ballots was 3.5 billion of the 25 billion total

 

[GDaddy]

The "stealing the election" claim is pretty dumb.

 

[kidfury]

Like El Ogro says, we're getting the leadership we deserve.
Trump2020 - let's see what's next!

 

[GWS_2]

The "stealing the election" claim is pretty dumb.

I agree. It’s actually a little scary that he’s talking that way. I just went back and reread the CNN article again and it’s really poorly written. Kind of unclear. In part because they’re quoting Trump so who knows what reality is.That is a LOT of dough when people can’t afford to buy food, pay rent or go to work.

 

[mundus]

Bottom line, Trump is trying to make it harder to vote like Republicans always do. A sidenote Trump votes by mail.

 

[GDaddy]

No matter how this goes it won't be any harder to vote in 2020 than it ever has been before. The hysterical claims to the contrary notwithstanding.

 

[Waterlogged05]

Bottom line, Trump is trying to make it harder to vote like Republicans always do. A sidenote Trump votes by mail.

the funniest part is a lot of his voters in rural areas would benefit from better postal service coverage especially in these times.
But they will be convinced to vote against their best interests like they always do.

 

[Ifallalot]

It seems like a lot because it is a lot and that's not what it's for by a long shot.

It's a complete re-funding, new vehicles, other infrastructure etc.

It's not $25B to deal with absentee ballots.

Don't forget administrative costs. Its always administrative costs

 

[Phi1]

What do they do at Christmas time?

They probably don’t cut overtime or remove mail sorting machines, for starters.

LOUIS DEJOY: We are at the beginning of a transformative process. Our goal is to change and improve the Postal Service.

KING: He has reassigned or displaced 23 postal executives. He's changed delivery policies, banned overtime and done other things to cut costs. So what has this all meant for employees? Kimberly Karol is the president of the Iowa Postal Workers Union and a postal clerk herself in Waterloo, Iowa. Hi.

KIMBERLY KAROL: Good morning.

KING: Are you feeling these changes that are being made in Iowa?

KAROL: Yes, we are beginning to see those changes and how it is impacting the mail. Mail is beginning to pile up in our offices, and we're seeing equipment being removed. So we are beginning to see the impact of those changes.

KING: Curious - I hadn't heard about this one - equipment being removed. What equipment?

KAROL: The sorting equipment that we use to process mail for delivery. In Iowa, we are losing machines. And they already in Waterloo were losing one of those machines. So that also hinders our ability to process mail in the way that we had in the past.

How Are Postmaster General Louis DeJoy's Changes Affecting Workers?

NPR's Noel King talk to Kimberly Karol, president of the Iowa Postal Workers Union, about changes Postmaster General DeJoy is implementing. Karol, a postal clerk, says mail is piling up in her office.

www.npr.org

IMO, any rigging or cheating done by one side could likely be done by the other as well, so I really doubt any of this will change the outcome of the election.

What I think it will do is add to the uncertainty surrounding the elections and bolster any claims by POTUS that his eventual loss is illegitimate. Anything to increase chaos and distrust in our institutions.