Come clean about your dislike for Trumby. Do you hate HIM or his policies? Or Both?

mundus

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Both, what is the worst is the movement towards authoritarianism, nothing good can come from a President above the law, especially a corrupt mentally ill one.
 

casa_mugrienta

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Yeah like that one time Trump promised that Mexico will pay for the wall and by God they did!

It's just Trump being Trump
Still over your head.

People care 1000x more about their health insurance premiums and deductibles than they care about the stupid wall being paid for by Mexico because it hurts them thousands of dollars more.

I shouldn't have to explain this.
 

casa_mugrienta

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Everybody is crazy but you, just like your incel twin Ifail always claims we just cant understand his massive intelllect.
It's interesting the angry single middle aged guys like you are always calling the married guys incels.

Is that supposed to be some sort of self deprecation?
 
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FecalFace

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Still over your head.

People care 1000x more about their health insurance premiums and deductibles than they care about the stupid wall being paid for by Mexico because it hurts them thousands of dollars more.

I shouldn't have to explain this.
Selective outrage.

Obamacare helped millions of people get access to healthcare.

Those who got shafted, didn't get shafted by Obama but by the health insurance companies who are greedy middlemen fucks.

Likewise, Trumps policies fucked millions of people, it's just that none of them are on your radar.

Like lying to people that pre-existing condition bullshit will not come back when he repeals Obamacare. You think that's a trivial lie?
 
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Surfdog

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Obamacare mostly just expanded the rolls of Medicaid (or Medi-Cal in CA).

I've had to pay many $10s of $1000's more in just premiums alone the last 6 years. If you run a small business and pay your own health insurance, it's been a brutal hit to your wallet.

People constantly say health premiums were increasing more prior to Obamacare, in "percentages". That "might" be true in that twist on the numbers or $$$ paid. But actual costs have gone up WAY more since ACA went into place for most.

It's one thing when your insurance premium goes from $100 a month to $150 a month. Ya, a huge 50% increase sounds terrible.

It's another when it goes from $600 a month to $1500 a month over only 3 years (2014-2016). Ya, that's "less" than 50% a year, but look at the difference paid in just that short period of time. This was increasing WAY more than inflation and other normal cost increases at the time.

What sounds worse, a $50 a month increase in a year, or a $900 a MONTH increase in 3 years?

And to kick you in the teeth further, paying WAY more, for WAY less coverage, along with increased co-pays and deductibles. This was ALL happening long before Trump was elected.

It was a lie I will never forget, and economically affected many millions of people. It's also why our economy was stagnating in 2015, 2016, with no hope of climbing out of it in sight. Hillary was more of the same, if not worse.