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squidley said:.
It dumbfounds me how people can think it's more efficient to transform fossil fuel into electricity, transport the electricity many miles, put the electricity into a battery, store the electricity chemically, discharge the electricity, and then transform it in an electric motor to power a vehicle.....
.....more efficient than converting fossil fuel directly into mechanical energy to power a vehicle.
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hammies said:They can actually calculate the gasoline equivalent mileage of electric cars. Typically runs around 80 - 110 mpg. Large electric plants are so much more efficient than small internal compustion engines.
Electricity has the potential to tap into much more robust sources of energy than fossil fuels, like the sun, either through solar or nuclear fusion. I’m not opposed to fossil fuels. There just have to be better ways of harnessing energy than digging up fossil fuels and burning them. Nuclear can right now produce virtually limitless energy. It’s just that we are not currently able to minimize or eliminate the horrible tail risks. But maybe in the future ...
All those steps (plus more) are applicable to fossil fuel..
It dumbfounds me how people can think it's more efficient to transform fossil fuel into electricity, transport the electricity many miles, put the electricity into a battery, store the electricity chemically, discharge the electricity, and then transform it in an electric motor to power a vehicle.....
.....more efficient than converting fossil fuel directly into mechanical energy to power a vehicle.
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They do charge when breaking and releasing the gas pedal. So that bit of tech is there and I’m sure will only get better.What dumbfounds me is that these things don't charge themselves, use the sun or the rotating tires....figure that one out, Elon
JDJ said:Not sure how solar panels, especially on homes, kill birds
JDJ said:.....but I agree with you regarding wind turbines. I'm no hippie, and I'd like to have abundant energy. I just don't see fossil fuels getting us there. Plus, the oil and gas we use to run cars relies too heavily on regions of the world that are fairly unstable, to say the least. I support fracking and using our domestic natural gas reserves.
JDJ said:But why the hate on electricity? It's a great option. Tesla is encouraging innovation throughout the auto industry.
My wife's Model S is the best sedan I've ever driven, by far. It is asinine to ignore the benefits of electric motors over combustion engines. Sure I get that everything today has to be about politics but innovation is innovation. Personally I find the sheer madness of driving an Italian single clutch V12 and the perfection of driving a German flat 6 as irreplaceable experiences....but I also grew up listening to records.....but for a daily......there probably isn't a better car on the planet than the Tesla Model 3. it just ticks every single box.
Howdy GhostShaper!I have a 180 w panel on my van. There's not enough SA on the roof to charge the battery pack that runs your motor.
but enough to charge my 200 ah bank to run my fridge and roof fan, charge electronics, etc.
If I didn't need to get a new car before they come out I'd probably order oneHas any one here ordered one?