Can we talk about Nex Benedict?

[afoaf]

an example of back of the napkin math...

Transgender people over four times more likely than cisgender people to be victims of violent crime

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu

 

[grapedrink]

an example of back of the napkin math...

Transgender people over four times more likely than cisgender people to be victims of violent crime

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu

I mentioned murder, which isn’t something that can be answered yes or no in a survey
19000 murders per year in the US
1 in 200 people estimated to be trans, which would mean that ~100 trans people would be murdered per year
Various articles that come out at the start of the year usually give numbers in the 40s for the United States, for 2023 it was 35

New Everytown Data on Transgender Homicides Reveals Concentration in the South

NEW YORK — Today, Everytown for Gun Safety Support Fund released new data on homicides of transgender and gender-expansive people revealing a disproportionate density in the South. The new data …

www.everytown.org

This article estimates 320 worldwide, and even admits that many are engaged in sex work. Control for sex workers and the risk for the general population of everyday trans people goes down even further.

Beaten, Stabbed And Shot: 320 Trans People Killed In 2023 - New Monitoring Report

The vast majority of those killed (94%) were trans women. The Trans Murder Monitoring report also found most victims were black and many were sex workers.

www.forbes.com

So yeah- you can take that envelope and roll up whatever you’re smoking in it, because with the data we have available it’s not even close to breaking even.

Facts>>>>Narratives

 

[Duffy LaCoronilla]

I don’t think non binary people transition from male to female or female to male

So they aren’t permanently changing their body or castrating or making it so they can’t be a bio parent

So why does anyone care?

There are binary people and non-binary people. That’s two available choices.

Therefore even non-binary people are binary.

But seriously folks, “non-binary“ is just someone who needs attention but lacks commitment.

 

[Duffy LaCoronilla]

an example of back of the napkin math...

Transgender people over four times more likely than cisgender people to be victims of violent crime

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu

Almost all of those murders and assaults are done by Johns or intimate partners.

 

[Mike_Jones]

the very article you responded to in your first post on page one of this thread called it "assault" you fkn lackwit

other articles readily available at the time you made your string of absolutely depraved and idiotic posts also called it an assault and provided details

you can find the police body cam online

you care enough to jump to the defense of the people who assaulted this person but don't seem to care enough to apprise yourself of the readily available facts on the case so, ONCE AGAIN, squidtard makes himself look like an absolute piece of fkn sh!t

you're such a skidmark, bud

So you still can't come up with a source for your assault claim.

Ummmn just because some leftist writer says that this dimwit was assaulted doesn't make it so, dimwit. The writer didn't cite any source. Not anyone. That's why you have to come up with one.

.....Which you still haven't done.
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[estreet]

I’m happy to add some nuance

Oh please, you couldn’t nuance if your life depended on it.

 

[grapedrink]

Oh please, you couldn’t nuance if your life depended on it.

Yes- because you seem so capable of that yourself as well

 

[hammies]

Almost all of those murders and assaults are done by Johns or intimate partners.

Oddly, the article doesn't mention that at all.

 

[kidfury]

But seriously folks, “non-binary“ is just someone who needs attention but lacks commitment.

This statement indicates a claim of expertise on the subject of non-binary persons. Without the claim of expertise the statement is pointless. Where does the expertise come from?

 

[estreet]

Yes- because you seem so capable of that yourself as well

You would know nuance if it hit you on the head.

Now it your turn to say the same about me, because what you lack in nuance you don’t make up for in originality.

 

[Duffy LaCoronilla]

This statement indicates a claim of expertise on the subject of non-binary persons. Without the claim of expertise the statement is pointless. Where does the expertise come from?

Is this your new angle?

 

[plasticbertrand]

Because I don't think it's healthy for society to indulge in false narratives and alternate realities for the sake of peoples feelings. The fact that there are people who militantly push false narratives and attack those who disagree with them is bad for society, and those who engage in those tactics deserve to be called out for the toxic, divisive actors that they are. The fact that the activist community is so unwilling to have an honest discussion shows that they don't have the ability to have one, because if they had strong arguments then they would use them.

For example, I can both acknowledge that trans people have the right to pursue activities that make them happy, and that they want to do so as the gender they identify as, while also acknowledging that there are major fairness issues for female athletes. Both of these ideas can exist and be discussed at the same time, even if they are in conflict with each other in a practical sense, except the activist community attacks anyone who attempts to have a nuanced discussion of this.

We are also told that Trans people are murdered at a disproportionate rate. Some simple back of the envelope math with readily available statistics shows that this is probably not true when compared to the non-trans murder rate, or at the very least there is not enough data to support this idea. Yet it is parroted mindlessly and used as a reason for shutting down debate.

And yes, the trans issue is especially problematic because young impressionable people are being pushed by bad actors (primarily online, but some IRL too) into medical interventions that are potentially dangerous and often irreversible, and the code of silence I mentioned above only makes it harder for troubles young people to get the information they need to make an informed decision. Even the NYT is admitting this now https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/02/opinion/transgender-children-gender-dysphoria.html

So this whole thing is because you don't think it's healthy for society to indulge in false narratives, whatever the fück that means. Accepting these people is not a false narrative, it's just being human.
Not that you would know anything about that.


It's completely worth it dragging people through mud just because you think something's not healthy for society.

You sound like Jerry Falwell at the peak of homophobia.

Where's @Ifallalot to call you a Boomer.... Oh yeah, he thinks the same boomer thoughts as you.
Fucking clowns everywhere.

 

[plasticbertrand]

How exactly am I fucking with them? By having an opinion that conflicts with the extremist narrative

You are reminding them every day that they are abnormal degenerates.

Thanks for your service.

 

[Ifallalot]

It is odd
He’s talking about not changing his language, using birthing people as an example
Yet no on ps asking anyone to say birthing people
At least not in the real world

In the old days, when being gay was the big social hot button, people who were loud ant gay people were accused of being closet gays

I wonder if people who are vocal about being anti gender fluid or trans will be accused of being closet trans

You’re talking about this “not in the real world” despite admitting you use pronouns

Meanwhile the federal government is using “birthing people” in official announcements and documents, but that’s not in the real world?

 

[Ifallalot]

Non-binary is likely more prevalent than you expect. And the non-binary students are likely to be intelligent, hardworking, and kind.
Only an actual bully would make the decision to belittle and persecute them.

Speaking of fantasy world

 

[grapedrink]

So this whole thing is because you don't think it's healthy for society to indulge in false narratives, whatever the fück that means. Accepting these people is not a false narrative, it's just being human.
Not that you would know anything about that.

Holy fook, you are really struggling here. I laid it out quite clearly in plain English.

Should trans people be accepted and allowed to live a normal life free of abuse and harassment? Yes. Does that mean that society has to pretend that grown men should compete as women in sports and pretend it’s fair and normal? No. Does society have to allow minors to receive permanently body altering surgery without counsel from professionals, and instead based on pressure from people on Reddit, and pretend that there is no risk of regret or complications? Also no.

That’s what I mean by false narratives. Learn to read for fook sake.

It's completely worth it dragging people through mud just because you think something's not healthy for society.

I’m not dragging trans people through the mud, I’m calling out the special interest groups and activists who push this twisted agenda, atrack those who call them out, and refuse to have an honest conversation about it. At this point that includes you, because not once have you responded to any of my comments in good faith, which only reinforces my point.

Thumbs down incoming

 

[Oakleys_N_Zinka]

This statement indicates a claim of expertise on the subject of non-binary persons. Without the claim of expertise the statement is pointless. Where does the expertise come from?

You need several years of reading Judith Butler to be an expert.

 

[Autoprax]

There are binary people and non-binary people. That’s two available choices.

Therefore even non-binary people are binary.

But seriously folks, “non-binary“ is just someone who needs attention but lacks commitment.

non non binary

 

[plasticbertrand]

You’re talking about this “not in the real world” despite admitting you use pronouns

Meanwhile the federal government is using “birthing people” in official announcements and documents, but that’s not in the real world?

ok boomer.

 

[Ifallalot]

ok boomer.

I actually love your avatar btw