Can we talk about Nex Benedict?

plasticbertrand

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Do you like to let people live in a fantasy land? Would you say the same to a furry, adult baby, etc?
I'll ask again, after you abolish transgenderism, what do you want to do with these people?

Round them into camps?

We need answers.
 

Random Guy

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Grape Boi has a habit of arguing 3 sides of given issue in the same word salad.
I mean, There’s a lot of angles to this stuff
it’s not necessarily a black and white thing so to an extent I get it
But to an extent, I don’t really get it
 
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mundus

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It is odd
He’s talking about not changing his language, using birthing people as an example
Yet no on ps asking anyone to say birthing people
At least not in the real world

In the old days, when being gay was the big social hot button, people who were loud ant gay people were accused of being closet gays

I wonder if people who are vocal about being anti gender fluid or trans will be accused of being closet trans
Either that or secretly ashamed of their attraction to Trannies.
 
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Random Guy

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I'll ask again, after you abolish transgenderism, what do you want to do with these people?

Round them into camps?

We need answers.
I’m sure there are many people who think they should simply go back to being who they were
Irregardless of whether or not they were happy

Kind of like the way gay people were supposed to stay in the closet until recently
 
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plasticbertrand

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I’m sure there are many people who think they should simply go back to being who they were
Irregardless of whether or not they were happy or not

Kind of like the way gay people were supposed to stay in the closet until recently
That's exactly what "not indulging in their fantasies" means.

I don't think we will see ifail or grape spell that out for us.
 
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grapedrink

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He never gave a good reason for doing this.
Because I don't think it's healthy for society to indulge in false narratives and alternate realities for the sake of peoples feelings. The fact that there are people who militantly push false narratives and attack those who disagree with them is bad for society, and those who engage in those tactics deserve to be called out for the toxic, divisive actors that they are. The fact that the activist community is so unwilling to have an honest discussion shows that they don't have the ability to have one, because if they had strong arguments then they would use them.

For example, I can both acknowledge that trans people have the right to pursue activities that make them happy, and that they want to do so as the gender they identify as, while also acknowledging that there are major fairness issues for female athletes. Both of these ideas can exist and be discussed at the same time, even if they are in conflict with each other in a practical sense, except the activist community attacks anyone who attempts to have a nuanced discussion of this.

We are also told that Trans people are murdered at a disproportionate rate. Some simple back of the envelope math with readily available statistics shows that this is probably not true when compared to the non-trans murder rate, or at the very least there is not enough data to support this idea. Yet it is parroted mindlessly and used as a reason for shutting down debate.

And yes, the trans issue is especially problematic because young impressionable people are being pushed by bad actors (primarily online, but some IRL too) into medical interventions that are potentially dangerous and often irreversible, and the code of silence I mentioned above only makes it harder for troubles young people to get the information they need to make an informed decision. Even the NYT is admitting this now https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/02/opinion/transgender-children-gender-dysphoria.html
 

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Because I don't think it's healthy for society to indulge in false narratives and alternate realities for the sake of peoples feelings.
That's one of the stupidest statements you've ever posted, and we're talking about a mountain of stupid.

There are countless examples of "false narratives" in our culture and they serve a variety of healthy functions.

Both of these ideas can exist and be discussed at the same time, even if they are in conflict with each other in a practical sense, except the activist community attacks anyone who attempts to have a nuanced discussion of this.
Your opinions are rarely if ever nuanced. :rolleyes:
 

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That's one of the stupidest statements you've ever posted, and we're talking about a mountain of stupid.

There are countless examples of "false narratives" in our culture and they serve a variety of healthy functions.
:roflmao:
Examples? And are these false narratives whose sole function is to spare the feelings of a small minority, despite factual evidence that it is empirically wrong? The only one that comes to mind that ****arguably**** fits that criteria is religion, which has both positive and negative impacts.

Even if we can agree that the trans narrative is a “healthy” false narrative, do you still think that it’s good for society if it can’t be openly discussed without fear of retribution?

Your opinions are rarely if ever nuanced. :rolleyes:
Um, ok :unsure: Feel free to point out exactly what you disagree with and I’m happy to add some nuance :shaka: