Can we take over Mexico now?

[Duffy LaCoronilla]

Duffy, I do want to say, I agree with you on a couple things you've said:

1. Hold companies accountable for hiring illegal immigrants, whether it fine, jail time, etc.
2. streamline and increase legal immigration to the United States. This is what I would call "legalizing people". If you actually give them a streamlined way to legally immigrate in appropriate numbers, we wouldn't have the mess we have now. We all know the US workforce depends on immigrants.

But I want to keep driving home one fact: Illegal immigrants DO NOT get any special free benefits.

“Special” free benefits? Is that a qualifier?

The get free benefits...

California Is 1st State To Offer Health Benefits To Adult Undocumented Immigrants

Expanding health benefits to more undocumented immigrants was praised by state Democrats, but some Republicans worried about California becoming a "magnet" for migrants in search of coverage.

www.npr.org

“California has become the first state in the country to offer government-subsidized health benefits to young adults living in the U.S. illegally.

The measure signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom on Tuesday extends coverage to low-income, undocumented adults ages 25 and younger for the state's Medicaid program.”

This doesn’t take into account illegal aliens that obtain fake SS numbers and ID’s and then apply for benefits.

Do you ever wonder why we don’t hear about identity theft anymore? That’s because it was found that the vast majority of cases were illegal aliens using the identities of citizens for various purposes.

You can go down to MacArthur Park in LA and buy “fake” papers out in the open. I put fake in quotes because most of these come from stolen identities of real people.

A Walk in the Park for a Fake ID

If you want a fake identification card in Los Angeles, you'll probably head to MacArthur Park, where identities are sold by fraudsters operating in the open. Authorities break up the rings regularly but they can't stamp out the trade in bogus IDs.

www.npr.org

Our government (both parties) have an interest in increased illegal workers (so they can be exploited for labor and votes) so with their friends in the “news” business stories of ID theft have disappeared.

 

[Sharkbiscuit]

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If you’d been driving through around the same time you wouldn’t be posting.

The “cartels”, unless you count the government as a cartel, haven’t been around for generations. Generation yes, generations, no.

Everything I’ve read, I’ve posted links, indicates wrong place wrong time. Nothing I’ve read indicates this incident had anything to do with the defunctos’ religion.

Feel free to edumacate me.

You should edumacate the CJNG: Tell them that they are invalid because there isn't an old generation for them to be distinct from by dint of being nuevo because there haven't been generations, plural.

If this requires you telling them my name and where I live, we could just skip it and carry on.

 

[ElOgro]

You should edumacate the CJNG: Tell them that they are invalid because there isn't an old generation for them to be distinct from by dint of being nuevo because there haven't been generations, plural.

If this requires you telling them my name and where I live, we could just skip it and carry on.
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Things really started going to sh!t when Salinas de Gotari was president. 6 years. Then Fox. 6 years. Calderón. 6 years. Peña Nieto. 6 years. 24 years, +/- a generation. CJNG started as the enforcement arm of another cartel. The gang accused of the killings, La Línea, started as enforcers for El Cartel del Golfo if I remember right. Hard to keep up without a score card.

 

[utoma]

If states wants to give benefits, is it not their right? And illegal immigrants do pay into taxes, so its not "free".

Yes, I understand your issue with normalizing illegal immigration, because it's trivializing the current state of things. But take California's measure for example: giving medical care to those 25 and younger. Most of these people were probably brought here when they were children.

But the immigration system as a whole needs a revamp.

 

[Sharkbiscuit]

You should edumacate the CJNG: Tell them that they are invalid because there isn't an old generation for them to be distinct from by dint of being nuevo because there haven't been generations, plural.

If this requires you telling them my name and where I live, we could just skip it and carry on.

Things really started going to sh!t when Salinas de Gotari was president. 6 years. Then Fox. 6 years. Calderón. 6 years. Peña Nieto. 6 years. 24 years, +/- a generation. CJNG started as the enforcement arm of another cartel. The gang accused of the killings, La Línea, started as enforcers for El Cartel del Golfo if I remember right. Hard to keep up without a score card.

Wait I thought the Zetas were originally the enforcement arm.....

And I thought La Linea was like Sur de Jalisco and Parhikuni and Primera Plus. They're a cartel?

 

[ElOgro]

Wait I thought the Zetas were originally the enforcement arm.....

And I thought La Linea was like Sur de Jalisco and Parhikuni and Primera Plus. They're a cartel?

Yes, La Línea was a sub arm. These are really gang level that go up through the food chain. There’s other levels below them.

The bus lines operate at the pleasure of the gangs/cartels/vigilante groups in their respective zones.

Everyone has a share!

 

[ElOgro]

If states wants to give benefits, is it not their right? And illegal immigrants do pay into taxes, so its not "free".

Yes, I understand your issue with normalizing illegal immigration, because it's trivializing the current state of things. But take California's measure for example: giving medical care to those 25 and younger. Most of these people were probably brought here when they were children.

But the immigration system as a whole needs a revamp.

Barry O was gonna fix this. That’s one of his platform items that got me out of the hammock to vote for him.

 

[mundus]

If you’d been driving through around the same time you wouldn’t be posting.

The “cartels”, unless you count the government as a cartel, haven’t been around for generations. Generation yes, generations, no.

Everything I’ve read, I’ve posted links, indicates wrong place wrong time. Nothing I’ve read indicates this incident had anything to do with the defunctos’ religion.

Feel free to edumacate me.

According to the Family it was not random.

 

[ElOgro]

According to the Family it was not random.

Stay of the road at night means what to you?

When I’ve been told not to do something, specifically by El Tísico, my ex neighbor, in my own home sitting exactly where I’m sitting right now

Carlos Rosales Mendoza - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

I fvckin’ well didn’t do it. One of the things I was told was when it was or wasn’t safe to be on the road. Another was nobody does business of any kind here without kicking up.

 

[Surfdog]

If states wants to give benefits, is it not their right? And illegal immigrants do pay into taxes, so its not "free".

Yes, I understand your issue with normalizing illegal immigration, because it's trivializing the current state of things. But take California's measure for example: giving medical care to those 25 and younger. Most of these people were probably brought here when they were children.

But the immigration system as a whole needs a revamp.

Many seem to overlook the fact that California gets a majority of it's welfare funding from the federal government, then either administers it or skims it as needed for other "stuff". So both state and federal taxes are paying for these bennies to illegal immigrants. Not all illegal immigrants pay into payroll taxes if working solely under the table. Some just pay sales tax, and maybe whatever taxes on items that are masked as "fees" like we all do (auto registrations and such). Fake ID's are a huge and lucrative business for illegal immigrants.

 

[ElOgro]

Deja ola de violencia 25 muertos en Guanajuato

En Apaseo el Alto, Guanajuato, se registró el hallazgo de un vehículo con explosivos y en su interior una persona sin vida sobre la calle Quintana Roo, de la colonia Santa Elena Norte.

m.excelsior.com.mx

 

[ElOgro]

Ejecutan a comisario y queman más vehículos en Ciudad Juárez

La Fiscalía de Chihuahua responsabilizó de los hechos al grupo delictivo de ‘Los Mexicles’, vendedores de droga bajo las órdenes del Cártel del Pacífico

m.excelsior.com.mx

 

[ElOgro]

Between Petatlán and Zihuatanejo this morning

From my brother in law this morning who was on his way to Acapulco. There’s some audio but I don’t know how to post it but here’s a rough translation: there’s a bunch of pickups with armed guys coming down from the mountains. There getting out of the trucks bam bam bambambam oh fvck...

 

[afoaf]

Between Petatlán and Zihuatanejo this morning
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From my brother in law this morning who was on his way to Acapulco. There’s some audio but I don’t know how to post it but here’s a rough translation: there’s a bunch of pickups with armed guys coming down from the mountains. There getting out of the trucks bam bam bambambam oh fvck...

bad memories....

 

[everysurfer]

Tell me again why these guys shouldn't have an air strike and some 1000 pound bombs dropped on them

 

[everysurfer]

How are they different than ISIS?

 

[ElOgro]

Have you let your elected representatives know how you feel?

 

[everysurfer]

Have you let your elected representatives know how you feel?

Would you like me to do that?

 

[ElOgro]

Would you like me to do that?

What I like isn’t important. The topic is important enough to you that you started the thread. Do your elected representatives read your posts here?

 

[everysurfer]

I wouldn't know if they do or don't. Salud might surf.

It's your country. Would you like help starting an insurrection?