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How many will we need total? How much power and energy will they require? At what cost? Who pays it?
"It takes time/work/money/etc":
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California might have the highest welfare usage in the nation gross because it's much bigger than the other 49 states. There is basically no way it has the highest per capita usage, by any metric, including at the state-funded level.
Think of them like gas stations. Buy or rent land / space, charge for charging. Private equity backed this play. Juice comes from the landowner's existing infrastructure. First ones in LB. Lots more on the books. Ribbon cutting in a week, should be on the news.
That's not what I'm asking - how much more power and energy will need to be supplied to the CA grid for this?
It's a good thing diesel fuel is free!How many will we need total? How much power and energy will they require? At what cost? Who pays it?
"It takes time/work/money/etc":
Train to nowhere: can California’s high-speed rail project ever get back on track?
Despite 14 years of work and about $5bn spent, the 2008 promise of quick transport between Los Angeles and San Francisco has not materialized
Holy sh!t that one hippie wasn't kidding when he said you'd meet some gentle people in San Francisco. A tow truck driver gently doing anything? To a Tesla? Good Lord. You ask a tow truck driver in Florida to do that, you're going to be asking the guy rapidly banging the drum why the tow truck driver told him "ramming speed" and wanted a quarter mile of run-up.
We've got plenty of power, during the day. We actually pay AZ to take our solar overproduction. At night, different story, peaker plants come on.
That's not what I'm asking - how much more power and energy will need to be supplied to the CA grid for this?
I calculated that to convert all of CA's 14 million cars to EVs and charge them overnight, we'd need 9 more Diablo Cyn reactors. Converting the diesel tractor trailers to electric makes this problem much worse.
Commercially, I don't give two shits about 14 million EV's. Just ports to distribution hubs (San Bern, Riverside, Santa Clarita, etc). I'll be long out of this business by the time Emperor Newsom's mandate deadline hits. As far as having the juice for that, not a chance in hell we've got infrastructure for that, even during the day, nevermind at night. Battery storage at the utility scale (as we've chatted about before) is not anywhere near the levels needed to keep up with the improvements on the PV side. Pumped hydro solves this, but again, we are in CA so it'll never work. Turn San O back on?
Plunder as much as you can.
I probably need to plan my exit strategy. Maybe I'll become a taskmaster on one of @Subway's plantations/yoga retreats.
