Best Fullsuit?

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I really like the Dawn Patrol 5/4, very warm as warms my Xcel but more flexible. Its lasting a long time too.
Agree. My 5/4 hooded Dawn Patrol, 2nd or 3rd season, still works great. Maybe at the price point you are not expecting great things, but the write up on the updated version makes it sound even better. Just a dependable suit.

And man am I learning to dislike Xcel, which I have mostly gravitated to but no more.

Around the same time that I got my Dawn Patrol, I paid the fortune for the 6/5 Drylock to make it though the coldest part of the New England winters, waste of money. Inside of the thigh area already leaks like crazy, left sleeve is tearing and the chin cup is way to small, and I take good care of my gear.

The Rip Curl is holding up much better, dries much faster.

I'm going to replace my Xcel 6/5, the Vissala Seven Seas at $289.95 [Cleanline offering 10% off right now] seems way to appealing would love thoughts on it.

Generally speaking my core stays warm, what forces me out of the water, around the 2 - 2.5 hour mark, are my feet and hands...

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My ripcurl heat seaker started falling apart after one year. I think my old billabong zero lasted longer. The liquid tape that goes on the outside of the suits are pure sh!t. I don't think that goop stretches enough to match the flexibility of the neoprene. They spend so much time and effort into developing fancy limestone neoprene and heat generating liners only to ruin it with crappy tape. However, rip curl did offer to retape it, it's a hassle though to ship it to them. I just bought the vissla 7 seas 5/4 because it is limestone neoprene, but does not use the liquid tape on the outside, just normal stitching. It is much warmer than my old heat seeker, but it is also brand new so who knows what it will be like after a year. It's a little stiffer too, maybe it needs a couple more surfs to break in.
 
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Isurus all 3M hooded zipless review(I also have 4/3 hooded-too warm and stiff normally for where I surf in it NorCal) : Water 54 ish. Pluses-Fit perfect, perfectly flexible off the bat (I expect this to improve as these suits require breaking in), perfectly warm in 2 hour sesh, very light... after rinsing it felt like i was hanging up a 1 mil full suit! Minuses-I was unpleasantly flushed a few times from the zip free entry down my right arm and back, I thought I could cinch it down but it wont stay(maybe I need to tie in a knot). Anyways even with the flushes I was pretty happy still (much colder water that would be questionable).

I also have a Rip Curl Flash bomb 4/3 zipperless and will say RC enty set up is more dialed in having never been flushed(no hood, maybe is why) but the quality and weight of isurus suit is superior to RC IMHO.
 
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Picked up a last year's Billabong Furnace Revolution 4/3 for half price recently, and I have to say, it's a surprisingly well made suit - super flexible and light, very warm, fits great, dries quick.

Definitely better quality than the lower end O'Neill suit I tried - that barely lasted a season. Much better fit and quality than the off-the-rack 7 till 8 I got last year (that ripped almost immediately, and wasn't all that warm). Perhaps not quite as toasty as the Xcel Drylocks I used to regularly buy for nearly $400, but damn close. And so far, seems to be holding up just as well. For the price ($105), it was a ridiculously good deal.

Note that I am in So Cal, where all the liberal pu##ies,, like myself, live. None of us have any idea what real winter water feels like...
 

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Switched to 5/4 Oneill Hyperfreak (no smoothie) from same millimeter Psycotech this season. Been on the banging techno house rubber for years now. Boom boom boom. Easily the lightest and flexyist 5 mill I've ever owned. Dries super fast too. Not as warm as Psycotech, but suffices very nicely and over a 100 bones cheaper. We've really only had one stretch of close to freezing temps and cold offshores this season, back around Thanksgiving and stayed pretty warm albeit it was brand new. Probably not the best 5 mill for New England, but should suffice from north of the Gate to Van Isle and maybe AK.
 

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Wow. that is their top-of-the-line suit? 3/2? Chest-zip or zipperless?

I've been using my Vissla 4/3 lately, and after surfing a couple days in row, reminded the difference a zipper makes in how sore my shoulders get. I miss the freedom (and comfiness) of the RC Flashbomb zipperless. Once you've paddled with one, it's honestly hard to go back to a chest-zip. My next 3/2 will definitely be zipperless- either rip curl or vissla.
 
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silentbutdeadly

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havoc went big. I didn't think there was the newest techno blibber on the hypertherapy suit.

the newest stuff has to be the most flexible material ever, just not quite as warm.

I sent two old suits back to oneil for repair so we'll see how that goes.
 
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Had a 4h session in the new need essentials 6/4.5 in water in the mid to low 40s. Very very warm, but definitely not as flexible as my 1 year old drylock. Hoping the suit will loosen up in time
 

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Wow. that is their top-of-the-line suit? 3/2? Chest-zip or zipperless?

I've been using my Vissla 4/3 lately, and after surfing a couple days in row, reminded the difference a zipper makes in how sore my shoulders get. I miss the freedom (and comfiness) of the RC Flashbomb zipperless. Once you've paddled with one, it's honestly hard to go back to a chest-zip. My next 3/2 will definitely be zipperless- either rip curl or vissla.
this one

but its 479.99 in stores
 

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It's the material on the shoulders of this suit

 
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