Best Fullsuit?

sd_101

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Jul 27, 2014
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Update on the quick suit -

def warm for a 4/3, served its purpose in low-mid 50s air/water.

a little on the stiff side but I’m coming from a 3/3 with the fancy silver surfer tech on the inside (doesn’t work) so maybe it’s just the extra neoprene thickness I’m feeling.
 
Jan 27, 2011
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Had the latest 3/2 Feral full suit shipped to the Canaries. It's probably gonna be too much rubber for here but dawn sessions have been getting deadly cold lately. Let's see if their hype is true...
 

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Jul 23, 2011
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Just came from the local surf shop. Mind you, the shop owner isn't the type to carry the latest and the greatest. There was no yamamoto rubber in the shop. He did have a couple Pattagucci stocked, but they didn't appeal to me. Long story short, I was feeling up some mid-range quik, vissla and o'neill suits - they all felt heavy and would probably soak up a lot of water.

Wasn't there a story about 90% (or something like that) of all wetsuits came out of the same factory.. they just slapped different logos on them? Makes sense that they all feel the same, with different tailored cuts. Fuggit, I'm this close to getting a custom yamamoto suit. One of the last Del Mar events had a Japanese company there that was doing custom orders. Anyone remember the name?
 

feralseppo

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Feb 28, 2006
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Picked up.a 4/3 Needessentials yesterday. Got the premium fast drying thermal. Seems like a Matuse but warmer. I am between XXL and XLT. Went XLT. Fits like a glove. No water intrusion. Has quite a high neck.sal that will take some getting used to but works well. No flushing. Light and flexible. No complaints. Not bad for $200.
 

retodd

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Just came from the local surf shop. Mind you, the shop owner isn't the type to carry the latest and the greatest. There was no yamamoto rubber in the shop. He did have a couple Pattagucci stocked, but they didn't appeal to me. Long story short, I was feeling up some mid-range quik, vissla and o'neill suits - they all felt heavy and would probably soak up a lot of water.

Wasn't there a story about 90% (or something like that) of all wetsuits came out of the same factory.. they just slapped different logos on them? Makes sense that they all feel the same, with different tailored cuts. Fuggit, I'm this close to getting a custom yamamoto suit. One of the last Del Mar events had a Japanese company there that was doing custom orders. Anyone remember the name?
7 till 8
 

silentbutdeadly

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Sep 26, 2005
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Well I've put about ten sessions on my $159 Infiniti. Super comfy suit but man they sure went to crap! It leaks worse than my oneil that's over a year old!!!! What a shame.

Even if I only get a season out of it no big deal cause it was cheap.
 

Oceanslide

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Mar 5, 2008
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Picked up.a 4/3 Needessentials yesterday. Got the premium fast drying thermal. Seems like a Matuse but warmer. I am between XXL and XLT. Went XLT. Fits like a glove. No water intrusion. Has quite a high neck.sal that will take some getting used to but works well. No flushing. Light and flexible. No complaints. Not bad for $200.
I picked one of these up back at the Del Mar
Boardroom show because it was like 40% off or something close. Finally used it several times over the past 2 weeks. Initially, it’s stiff as F to get into and out of. Almost like the stiffest of all Patagonia suit I had years ago.
However, I’ve been very warm each day I’ve used it; and comfortable. I’ve hung it on the hangair each time which has also opened up the shoulders a little and made it easier to put on/off. So, the inner lining on this one is def warmer in cold conditions, and also a bit stiffer than the one without. Imo
 
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I think there should be 2 categories, <5/4, and 5/4 and up. I have yamamoto and non Yamamoto, in 5/4's and 6/5's. Custom and also OTR. The Yamamoto's are warm, as in I'm never cold in Canada, wind speed, water temp, air temp doesn't matter in the 6/5's(have both lined and unlined). I can get 2 hrs in the 5/4's before getting a bit chilled. The Yamamoto doesn't soak up water, like the petroleum neoprene/open cell, but at that thickness I can definitely feel the resistance, both paddling and at take off.

They hold up for years, I surf mostly, 75-100x/yr, and kite occasionally. Odd seam repair here and there, dry super fast. If I was in a thinner suit, ie, 4/3 and less I'd get only this. But am going to try more stretch, so a billabong and an oneill soon.

Custom generally is worth it to me, fits perfectly everywhere. And like mentioned the seems are good...but also I never put on a wet wetsuit...got a good rotation going. 7till8 will help out if possible, for the life of the suit too. Good deal.
 

rgruber

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May 30, 2004
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What brand of Yamamoto rubber are you using for your 5/4s?

I think there should be 2 categories, <5/4, and 5/4 and up. I have yamamoto and non Yamamoto, in 5/4's and 6/5's. Custom and also OTR. The Yamamoto's are warm, as in I'm never cold in Canada, wind speed, water temp, air temp doesn't matter in the 6/5's(have both lined and unlined). I can get 2 hrs in the 5/4's before getting a bit chilled. The Yamamoto doesn't soak up water, like the petroleum neoprene/open cell, but at that thickness I can definitely feel the resistance, both paddling and at take off.

They hold up for years, I surf mostly, 75-100x/yr, and kite occasionally. Odd seam repair here and there, dry super fast. If I was in a thinner suit, ie, 4/3 and less I'd get only this. But am going to try more stretch, so a billabong and an oneill soon.

Custom generally is worth it to me, fits perfectly everywhere. And like mentioned the seems are good...but also I never put on a wet wetsuit...got a good rotation going. 7till8 will help out if possible, for the life of the suit too. Good deal.
 

casa_mugrienta

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Apr 13, 2008
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I think there should be 2 categories, <5/4, and 5/4 and up. I have yamamoto and non Yamamoto, in 5/4's and 6/5's. Custom and also OTR. The Yamamoto's are warm, as in I'm never cold in Canada, wind speed, water temp, air temp doesn't matter in the 6/5's(have both lined and unlined). I can get 2 hrs in the 5/4's before getting a bit chilled. The Yamamoto doesn't soak up water, like the petroleum neoprene/open cell, but at that thickness I can definitely feel the resistance, both paddling and at take off.

They hold up for years, I surf mostly, 75-100x/yr, and kite occasionally. Odd seam repair here and there, dry super fast. If I was in a thinner suit, ie, 4/3 and less I'd get only this. But am going to try more stretch, so a billabong and an oneill soon.

Custom generally is worth it to me, fits perfectly everywhere. And like mentioned the seems are good...but also I never put on a wet wetsuit...got a good rotation going. 7till8 will help out if possible, for the life of the suit too. Good deal.

Yamamoto is neoprene, not a wetsuit, and not all Yamamoto neoprenes are created equal.

For instance, Boz has used Yamamoto for decades, and some OTR big brand wetsuits are Yamamoto.

Plenty of shitty Yamamoto neoprenes and if the stitching on your suit is sh!t it doesn't matter anyways.
 

casa_mugrienta

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Apr 13, 2008
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Well I've put about ten sessions on my $159 Infiniti. Super comfy suit but man they sure went to crap! It leaks worse than my oneil that's over a year old!!!! What a shame.

Even if I only get a season out of it no big deal cause it was cheap.
Xcel is complete sh!t

If you send urs back to the Irvine address and tell them it leaks all over you should receive a new less leaky suit that might or might not fit in a few days. :D
 
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silentbutdeadly

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Sep 26, 2005
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infiniti is way better than the drylock I had for a bit.

Custom would probably be best for me but I'm not spending 500 on a suit only to have the dreaded crotch leak that makes the suit worthless.

I got a mutant this year now watch it's never gonna get cold lol
 
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feralseppo

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I picked one of these up back at the Del Mar
Boardroom show because it was like 40% off or something close. Finally used it several times over the past 2 weeks. Initially, it’s stiff as F to get into and out of. Almost like the stiffest of all Patagonia suit I had years ago.
However, I’ve been very warm each day I’ve used it; and comfortable. I’ve hung it on the hangair each time which has also opened up the shoulders a little and made it easier to put on/off. So, the inner lining on this one is def warmer in cold conditions, and also a bit stiffer than the one without. Imo
You can definitely feel the inside liner makes the suit feel a little less flexible. Mostly when sitting on my board, but all in all plenty flexible. After getting out of the water, walking up the path back to my car I was overheating. It looks like on their "ultra premium" suits they may use a different material. The description calls it 4-way stretch or something. But they also tape those suits on the outside and inside making it less flexible.
 
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