Baghdad airstrike kills important Iranian military dude.....or something.

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“Imminent” threat.

full article https://theduran.com/lies-the-bethlehem-doctrine-and-the-illegal-murder-of-soleimani/


'In one of the series of blatant lies the USA has told to justify the assassination of Soleimani, Mike Pompeo said that Soleimani was killed because he was planning “Imminent attacks” on US citizens. It is a careful choice of word. Pompeo is specifically referring to the Bethlehem Doctrine of Pre-Emptive Self Defence.

Developed by Daniel Bethlehem when Legal Adviser to first Netanyahu’s government and then Blair’s, the Bethlehem Doctrine is that states have a right of “pre-emptive self-defence” against “imminent” attack. That is something most people, and most international law experts and judges, would accept. Including me.

What very few people, and almost no international lawyers, accept is the key to the Bethlehem Doctrine – that here “Imminent” – the word used so carefully by Pompeo – does not need to have its normal meanings of either “soon” or “about to happen”. An attack may be deemed “imminent”, according to the Bethlehem Doctrine, even if you know no details of it or when it might occur. So you may be assassinated by a drone or bomb strike – and the doctrine was specifically developed to justify such strikes – because of “intelligence” you are engaged in a plot, when that intelligence neither says what the plot is nor when it might occur. Or even more tenuous, because there is intelligence you have engaged in a plot before, so it is reasonable to kill you in case you do so again.

I am not inventing the Bethlehem Doctrine. It has been the formal legal justification for drone strikes and targeted assassinations by the Israeli, US and UK governments for a decade. Here it is in academic paper form, published by Bethlehem after he left government service (the form in which it is adopted by the US, UK and Israeli Governments is classified information).

So when Pompeo says attacks by Soleimani were “imminent” he is not using the word in the normal sense in the English language. It is no use asking him what, where or when these “imminent” attacks were planned to be. He is referencing the Bethlehem Doctrine under which you can kill people on the basis of a feeling that they may have been about to do something.'
 

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full article https://theduran.com/lies-the-bethlehem-doctrine-and-the-illegal-murder-of-soleimani/


'In one of the series of blatant lies the USA has told to justify the assassination of Soleimani, Mike Pompeo said that Soleimani was killed because he was planning “Imminent attacks” on US citizens. It is a careful choice of word. Pompeo is specifically referring to the Bethlehem Doctrine of Pre-Emptive Self Defence.

Developed by Daniel Bethlehem when Legal Adviser to first Netanyahu’s government and then Blair’s, the Bethlehem Doctrine is that states have a right of “pre-emptive self-defence” against “imminent” attack. That is something most people, and most international law experts and judges, would accept. Including me.

What very few people, and almost no international lawyers, accept is the key to the Bethlehem Doctrine – that here “Imminent” – the word used so carefully by Pompeo – does not need to have its normal meanings of either “soon” or “about to happen”. An attack may be deemed “imminent”, according to the Bethlehem Doctrine, even if you know no details of it or when it might occur. So you may be assassinated by a drone or bomb strike – and the doctrine was specifically developed to justify such strikes – because of “intelligence” you are engaged in a plot, when that intelligence neither says what the plot is nor when it might occur. Or even more tenuous, because there is intelligence you have engaged in a plot before, so it is reasonable to kill you in case you do so again.

I am not inventing the Bethlehem Doctrine. It has been the formal legal justification for drone strikes and targeted assassinations by the Israeli, US and UK governments for a decade. Here it is in academic paper form, published by Bethlehem after he left government service (the form in which it is adopted by the US, UK and Israeli Governments is classified information).

So when Pompeo says attacks by Soleimani were “imminent” he is not using the word in the normal sense in the English language. It is no use asking him what, where or when these “imminent” attacks were planned to be. He is referencing the Bethlehem Doctrine under which you can kill people on the basis of a feeling that they may have been about to do something.'
The democrats with more of their next level stupidity. They should learn when to step back and shut the fuk up. Americans know that this guy was a bad guy responsible for the death and maiming of hundreds of Americans. They are smart enough to know that this POS wasn't in Baghdad days after an attack on our embassy to pick up a pizza on his way home from a Switzerland ski vacation. The democrats and their stupid media accomplices are just making fools of themselves with their ongoing temper tantrums over everything Trump does. The guy was worthy of death for the things he'd already done not to mention any plans he had for the future and real American's get it.
 

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Americans know that this guy was a bad guy responsible for the death and maiming of hundreds of Americans.
6000 american servicemen/veterans kill themselves every year, this super duper bad guy being loosely associated with a few hundred or so being killed in action seems like a small deal compared to that. :shrug:
 

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The democrats with more of their next level stupidity. They should learn when to step back and shut the fuk up. Americans know that this guy was a bad guy responsible for the death and maiming of hundreds of Americans. They are smart enough to know that this POS wasn't in Baghdad days after an attack on our embassy to pick up a pizza on his way home from a Switzerland ski vacation. The democrats and their stupid media accomplices are just making fools of themselves with their ongoing temper tantrums over everything Trump does. The guy was worthy of death for the things he'd already done not to mention any plans he had for the future and real American's get it.
Your kids enlist yet?
 

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Your kids enlist yet?
What business is that of yours asshole?

My cousin's son has over 300 pieces of shrapnel in his body as the result of a roadside bomb in Iraq and is lucky to be alive. I have a close friend who's husband was gravely injured by an IED in Iraq and she is left caring for her husband who was left with brain damage.

Fuk You!!!
 
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mundus

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What business is that of yours asshole?

My cousin's son has over 300 pieces of shrapnel in his body as the result of a roadside bomb in Iraq and is lucky to be alive. I have a close friend who's husband was gravely injured by an IED in Iraq and she is left caring for her husband who was left with brain damage.

Fuk You!!!
That is a shame, thank GW for that. Think about these people when cheerleading for a war you wont fight.
 
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