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Aussie/NZ COVID.
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No one has told you about the Death Panels?
I dunno, I think we just want churches to do it. Half of America would rather have the church control their bodies anyway than be able to govern it themselves. America is a weird place.
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Is that a white privilegeyou maintain the privilege to get gunned down on any given day
color don't matter, race, religion, gender either. just make sure to register that firearm, you want the ability to gun down others in self defense legally.Is that a white privilege
Yep. I think the "COVID-Zero" policy is dead in the water... it's only a matter of time before the government realises it.
Yes, as of a few days ago the government belatedly came up with a long term COVID roadmap, based on a study by australia's infection and immunity thinktank the Doherty Institute. Understandably you seem puzzled by the Aus govts hell bent impossible eradication strategy. So first a brief history of how we got here.
As with America when COVID first struck there was confusion as to how serious it was, when the Australian F1 grand prix got cancelled after the international teams had already arrived and started practicing was the turning point that I remember (the F1 track is opposite where I used to live). Later in March 2020 Australia locked its international borders to non nationals and those without permanent residency visas. It did warn Australians overseas to come home, but not all took that advice or were in a reasonable position to do so. They are allowed back in, but plane tickets scarce and prices enormous. Some lost their overseas jobs due to COVID and are unable to return home causing financial hardship.
The locked border policy allowed us to beat the first coronavirus wave and it has proved popular. We get a fair amount of international news here and this allowed the people to compare our policy with the huge death rates that were occurring in USA and UK. Surprisingly the locked borders has not sunk our economy. This probably would not be a feasible thing for the USA to do.
Then a second coronovirus wave started in Melbourne during winter. With other states remaining under control Victoria's numbers started to rapidly climb. Just like what Sydney is going through now, the state would be waiting for the new case numbers announcement and watching in horror as it just got worse. Other states locked their borders to Victoria. We were the basket case state and chastised by the federal government. It seemed Melbourne had messed up its hotel quarantine and overseas arrivals had allowed the virus to leak into the community. Hotel quarantine in Victoria was run by security guards, some with multiple jobs and recruited quickly with inadequate training to fill the new jobs. Another reason was thought to be Melbourne's high migrant population from cultures that liked to socialise with big family gatherings. Plus a combination of the two, migrant security guards living in the outer suburbs travelling to inner city hotel quarantine.
Melbourne went into its great lockdown and the federal government became increasingly impatient and demanded a roadmap out. This was at a time with no light at the end of the tunnel. The state came up with very severe and very complicated restrictions on which industries had to shut down. There were even different rules for construction workers on different sized house projects. Each industry individually studied and given tailored restrictions. It took a strong state premier and police force to keep the people under control. Amazingly this strategy ended up in something Australia was not aiming for - technical eradication. Which is defined as multiple consecutive days of no new locally acquired cases.
That was not the end of Melbourne/Victoria lockdowns, once bitten twice shy. The inevitable new cases sparked further lockdowns and for the most part the Melbourne population was ok with that after already experiencing how things can get out of control so quickly.
Sydney/NSW took a different approach, they appeared to have better contract tracing and also a premier with a greater appetite for risk. They kept outbreaks under control with their testing and contract tracing system. Some epidemiologists thought they were playing with fire, but the no lockdown strategy worked. Our prime minister praised and encouraged this no lockdown approach. Its different now. The tables have turned. Victoria is locking out NSW and close to COVID free. Sydney are months away from coming out of lockdown, the same migrant situation as Melbourne combined with delta has seen to that. When other states have eradicated, a single state going it alone and letting it run is not an option. Locked state borders turn it into a leper state.
Thanks for the rundown.
Sounds like since eradication is not possible and vaccines still allow transmission you guys will be in a permanent state of lockdown implementation and lifting for any forseeable future along with closed borders for both citizens and foreigners. Possibly for years.
Unless, of course, you're a professional athlete.
Yeah I’m not sure how they will go about becoming part of the global community again without some collateral damage
I think we hate equality. Being equal is not the American dream.
Me doing better than them, that’s my dream.
I think Australia had a more amicable split from the UK, so maybe they have more “holdover” laws and customs in place as they pertain to freedom of speech
America's wealth inequality is high right now.
Left alone, wealth will always collect in one place.
When this happens you get social unrest.
The question is how to respond to it.
I think creating a system with fair competition, which is a good goal, is hard.
I would prefer not to say, on the grounds that in might insight much mockery and derision and I am still a little hung over.
