Are the Democrats about to cook up a fake war

nimby

Gerry Lopez status
Feb 15, 2011
1,033
1,034
113
put some context on this.
The start of this 'insurection' was the Russian Army Defense Minister, who has been mocked and insulted by Prighozin as being fully responsible for the Ukraine disaster, giving the Wagner group until July 1 to sign contracts putting them under Army control, at which point Prighozin would likely have been arrested.
The Prighozin response was the march on Moscow, which resulted in the negotiations ramping up, reaching an agreement the core Wagner mercernaries will not have to sign the Army contracts, only the cannon fodder yanked out of prisons and scooped up in mass draft 'arrests' will be under Army control.
So now Putin has been humiliated in front of his entire country while Prighozin retains the most ruthless mercenary group in the world, supposedly on his way to Belarus.
Ths sh!t is just getting started.
 

hammies

Duke status
Apr 8, 2006
15,614
14,264
113
Prigozhin remains a huge threat to Putin, Belarus or no.
The fact that he was able to take control of the city that is the main base for the Russian army without firing a shot speaks volumes. Putin should be very afraid.
 
  • Like
Reactions: hal9000

twinzerfan

Michael Peterson status
Oct 26, 2006
2,886
1,683
113
Floriduh
In reality, who would replace Putin were a coup successful?

Do we actually know, and are we sure it would be better?

Obviously I don’t care for Putin, I’m just not familiar with the structure there to know what would actually happen
 

StuAzole

Duke status
Jan 22, 2016
28,578
9,816
113
I wonder when we’ll see/hear from Prigozhin on all this?

Im skeptical on the story coming out of Moscow.

There‘s no way his “elite” forces just say ok and join the Russian ranks.
 

VonMeister

Duke status
Apr 26, 2013
20,251
6,977
113
JOE BIDENS RAPE FINGER
Legit source for news of this nature, of course :roflmao:
Russia has been building defense lines for a year. They had an impossible task last year during the summer offensive....way too much territory to hold. Now that the lines are reduced their defense is concentrated. These still aren't professional troops and they still run during contact but this contact is meter by meter.

It underscores the disgusting way the West has approached this whole thing. Give the Ukrainians enough to survive and barely enough to advance but not what's needed coupled with doing nothing sanction wise to cripple Russias ability to fund the war. Russian aviation is the difference here. Not giving the Ukrainians a way to counter this is driving up the body count and, while it's hard to imagine Russia ever getting better at war ...giving the Russians time to come up with a competent strategy aside from bodies and scorched earth.

The only conclusion you can draw from this is that the West doesn't give a sh!t about Ukraine...this is about embarrassing Russia and showing China that everything they worked at for the past 20 years geopolitically was a house of cards.
 
  • Like
Reactions: PRCD

StuAzole

Duke status
Jan 22, 2016
28,578
9,816
113
Russia has been building defense lines for a year. They had an impossible task last year during the summer offensive....way too much territory to hold. Now that the lines are reduced their defense is concentrated. These still aren't professional troops and they still run during contact but this contact is meter by meter.

It underscores the disgusting way the West has approached this whole thing. Give the Ukrainians enough to survive and barely enough to advance but not what's needed coupled with doing nothing sanction wise to cripple Russias ability to fund the war. Russian aviation is the difference here. Not giving the Ukrainians a way to counter this is driving up the body count and, while it's hard to imagine Russia ever getting better at war ...giving the Russians time to come up with a competent strategy aside from bodies and scorched earth.

The only conclusion you can draw from this is that the West doesn't give a sh!t about Ukraine...this is about embarrassing Russia and showing China that everything they worked at for the past 20 years geopolitically was a house of cards.
I hear China is our enemy so wouldnt this strategy make sense?
 

VonMeister

Duke status
Apr 26, 2013
20,251
6,977
113
JOE BIDENS RAPE FINGER
I hear China is our enemy so wouldnt this strategy make sense?
Geopolitically yes.....

Ukraine is completely obliterated and who knows how many hundreds of thousands of dead Ukrainians will be counted by the time this is over. Even if they restore their borders tomorrow they are generations away from life as they knew it.

There are better ways to deal with China.
 
  • Like
Reactions: PRCD