Anyone here still claiming the IG Report is a nothingburger?

studog

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per the IG report:
no deep state
no witch hunt
no coup
no political bias
 

rice

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Most people knew all this already, but....


https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/09/russia-conspiracy-theories-inspector-general-report-079474

Here are the Russia probe conspiracy theories debunked by the DOJ inspector general report

The investigation was not tainted by political bias and was adequately predicated, the report found.

The Steele dossier didn’t play a role in opening the Russia probe
Neither did Lisa Page or Peter Strzok
Obama never wiretapped Trump Tower
The FBI didn’t implant spies in Trump’s campaign
Joseph Mifsud was never an FBI informant
 

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rice said:
Most people knew all this already, but....


https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/09/russia-conspiracy-theories-inspector-general-report-079474]

Here are the Russia probe conspiracy theories debunked by the DOJ inspector general report

"The investigation was not tainted by political bias and was adequately predicated, the report found."

A lie. The report found that the investigation WAS tainted by political bias, but erroneously found that the ICIG and FBI director were not criminally chargeable. The report found that the FISA warrants on Trump's campaign staff were obtained by Obama's FBI knowingly submitting a political dirt document paid for by the Hillary campaign, but presented as evidence. The report also found that Obama's FBI knowingly withheld exculpatory information in its FISA warrant applications which would have voided the issuance of the warrants.

"The Steele dossier didn’t play a role in opening the Russia probe
Neither did Lisa Page or Peter Strzok"


Ummmmn I don't think anyone made any accusations about how the "Russia probe" STARTED. That was just John Brennan thinking he could stop Trump from winning. Page and Strzok were just willing conspirators in the conspiracy thought up by criminally intelligent people.

"Obama never wiretapped Trump Tower"
The FBI didn’t implant spies in Trump’s campaign"


What the hell do you think this splut is about? Obama's FBI illegally took out FISA warrants to monitor the communications of Carter Page a 2016 Trump campaign staffer. The warrants authorized Obama's FBI to monitor Page's electronic communications, including phone calls.

So in the process Obama's FBI didn't need to "wiretap" Trump tower? .....moot fckn point.

"Joseph Mifsud was never an FBI informant"

Whatever the hell that has to do with anything. Yawn.
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"The investigation was not tainted by political bias and was adequately predicated, the report found."

A lie. The report found that the investigation WAS tainted by political bias, but erroneously found that the ICIG and FBI director were not criminally chargeable. The report found that the FISA warrants on Trump's campaign staff were obtained by Obama's FBI knowingly submitting a political dirt document paid for by the Hillary campaign, but presented as evidence. The report also found that Obama's FBI knowingly withheld exculpatory information in its FISA warrant applications which would have voided the issuance of the warrants.

"The Steele dossier didn’t play a role in opening the Russia probe
Neither did Lisa Page or Peter Strzok"


Ummmmn I don't think anyone made any accusations about how the "Russia probe" STARTED. That was just John Brennan thinking he could stop Trump from winning. Page and Strzok were just willing conspirators in the conspiracy thought up by criminally intelligent people.

"Obama never wiretapped Trump Tower"
The FBI didn’t implant spies in Trump’s campaign"


What the hell do you think this splut is about? Obama's FBI illegally took out FISA warrants to monitor the communications of Carter Page a 2016 Trump campaign staffer. The warrants authorized Obama's FBI to monitor Page's electronic communications, including phone calls.

So in the process Obama's FBI didn't need to "wiretap" Trump tower? .....moot fckn point.

"Joseph Mifsud was never an FBI informant"

Whatever the hell that has to do with anything. Yawn.
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Stop lying.
 

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At least one of the reasons why Barr's investigation found no criminal culpability was that his investigation, like his authority, is limited to domestic affairs. There is another investigation under way which includes foreign communications and the CIA.

It will come out later.

U.S. Attorney John Durham is heading up the broader investigation.
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Page left the campaign late Sept 2016, FISA approved Oct 21, 2016 so no, not "spying" on the campaign. Former campaign member at the time.
 

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At least one of the reasons why Barr's investigation found no criminal culpability was that his investigation, like his authority, is limited to domestic affairs. There is another investigation under way which includes foreign communications and the CIA.

It will come out later.
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Keep the faith, Rube.
 

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Page left the campaign late Sept 2016, FISA approved Oct 21, 2016 so no, not "spying" on the campaign. Former campaign member at the time.

A lie. But lying has never stopped you before.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/2/16956014/nunes-memo-carter-page

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.....Finally, in September, Michael Isikoff of Yahoo News reported that the government was investigating Page’s ties to the Kremlin — a revelation that led the Trump campaign to harshly disassociate themselves from Page. (In Page’s own telling, he chose to take a leave of absence. He denied doing anything wrong.)

After Trump had won the election, Page never appeared to rejoin his team.....
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A lie. But lying has never stopped you before.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/2/16956014/nunes-memo-carter-page

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.....Finally, in September, Michael Isikoff of Yahoo News reported that the government was investigating Page’s ties to the Kremlin — a revelation that led the Trump campaign to harshly disassociate themselves from Page. (In Page’s own telling, he chose to take a leave of absence. He denied doing anything wrong.)

After Trump had won the election, Page never appeared to rejoin his team.....
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You have a problem with lying while constantly lying yourself and worhipping Don the Con?
 

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A lie. But lying has never stopped you before.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/2/16956014/nunes-memo-carter-page

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.....Finally, in September, Michael Isikoff of Yahoo News reported that the government was investigating Page’s ties to the Kremlin — a revelation that led the Trump campaign to harshly disassociate themselves from Page. (In Page’s own telling, he chose to take a leave of absence. He denied doing anything wrong.)

After Trump had won the election, Page never appeared to rejoin his team.....
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This is from the IG report. Please point out my lie.

Shortly after opening the Carter Page investigation in August 2016, the Crossfire Hurricane team discussed the possible use of FISA-authorized electronic surveillance targeting Page, which is among the most sensitive and intrusive investigative techniques. As we describe in Chapter Five, the FBI ultimately did not seek a FISA order at that time because OGC, NSD's Office of Intelligence (OI), or both determined that more information was needed to support probable cause that Page was an agent of a foreign power. However, immediately after the Crossfire Hurricane team received Steele's election reporting on September 19, the team reinitiated their discussions with or and their efforts to obtain FISA surveillance authority for Page, which they received from the FISC on October 21.
 

studog

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What did Loretta Lynch and Sally Yates know and when did they know it. Did they have their boss' approval for what they were doing in undermining the Trump campaign and the new president elect?
dumbass. Loretta - recused herself. Yates - went to Cheese house raising red flags and she got fired for it.
 

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This is from the IG report. Please point out my lie.

Sorry, that was not a lie. I merely confirmed your timeline. Apparently Page left Trump's campaign before the FISA warrants were granted..

Question: Why would an FBI investigating Russian election collusion with the Trump campaign request a warrant to spy on a person who is no longer a Trump staff member?

Answer: The Obama FBI was investigating the accusation in the fake Steele dossier that Page's July, 2016 trip to Russia was a clandestine meeting to plan Trump's collusion strategy. Page says it was about other business dealings in Russia. He had them.

Obama's FBI received FISA warrants to spy on Page in order to dig up dirt on Trump. Obama's FBI spied on Page because they believed Page was still connected to Trump. It doesn't matter whether Page was still connected to the Trump campaign or not. Using fake documents to spy on him is illegal either way.

It doesn't matter that Page no longer worked in the Trump campaign, lying to a FISA court on a warrant application is illegal.
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studog

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Sorry, that was not a lie. I merely confirmed your timeline. Apparently Page left Trump's campaign before the FISA warrants were granted..

Question: Why would an FBI investigating Russian election collusion with the Trump campaign request a warrant to spy on a person who is no longer a Trump staff member?

Answer: The Obama FBI was investigating the accusation in the fake Steele dossier that Page's July, 2016 trip to Russia was a clandestine meeting to plan Trump's collusion strategy. Page says it was about other business dealings in Russia. He had them.

Obama's FBI received FISA warrants to spy on Page in order to dig up dirt on Trump. Obama's FBI spied on Page because they believed Page was still connected to Trump. It doesn't matter whether Page was still connected to the Trump campaign or not. Using fake documents to spy on him is illegal either way.

It doesn't matter that Page no longer worked in the Trump campaign, lying to a FISA court on a warrant application is illegal.
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no one leaves the Cheeto campaign. ask Manafort or Lewandowski