Amazing spin.

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Watched a few minutes of CNN last night. Their attempts to spin the IG report were amazing. My favorite was Anderson Cooper claiming that these were "good people doing their best". Would Anderson Cooper ever give the same leeway to republicans who had trampled on the law and civil liberties?
 

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Watched a few minutes of CNN last night. Their attempts to spin the IG report were amazing. My favorite was Anderson Cooper claiming that these were "good people doing their best". Would Anderson Cooper ever give the same leeway to republicans who had trampled on the law and civil liberties?

Your problem lies in trying to watch CNN.
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I couldn't have said it better.....

https://townhall.com/columnists/jennaellis/2019/12/09/house-judiciary-report-bombshell-dems-trying-to-change-the-constitution-n2557690

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The jig is up. The Democrats have now actually admitted—in writing—that their sad little attempt at impeachment is entirely baseless. The House Judiciary Committee Report was released Saturday and admitted two very critical points:

First, the Democrats are trying to change the standard of impeachment. They are literally changing the rules to fit their theatrical story. Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler wrote in the preface that the previous reports on grounds for impeachable offenses in the Nixon and Clinton eras “remain useful points of reference, but no longer reflect the best available learning on questioning relating to presidential impeachment.”

Why, Jerry? Because you have no evidence for legitimate grounds of impeachment? This only proves that President Trump indeed does not belong in the ranks of Nixon and Clinton, where there was actually evidence of impeachable offenses.

Second, the Democrats are proceeding with impeachment against President Trump not because of any past wrongdoing which they have no proof of, but to “save the Nation” from Trump remaining in office. That is not a constitutionally permissible reason to impeach. That’s why we have elections. The American people get to decide who remains in office, absent clear evidence of impeachable offenses actually committed. We don’t impeach or convict based on a vague fear for democracy from the opposition party.

The Report, however, claims that impeachment exists, “not to inflict punishment for past wrongdoing, but rather to save the Nation from misconduct that endangers democracy and the rule of law.” This is not the standard for any legal proceeding in any context in the United States. We do not bring charges (even articles of impeachment) or convict based on the possibility of a future threat “to democracy” or otherwise.

The Democrats are totally failing. They have no evidence that genuinely qualifies as an impeachable offense and are now trying desperately to aggregate a lot of nothing (even going back to the dead Mueller Report) to try to force their end game of impeaching President Trump simply because they don’t want him to be re-elected. Please, they are saying, don’t be sidetracked with facts and evidence and law and standards.....
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The garbage coming out of congressional Dems is even more ridiculous.

1. How does "obstruction of congress" satisfy "high crimes and misdemeanors" as a constitutional prerequisite for impeachment?

2. How is "obstruction of congress" even possible from a president given that the presidency and congress are co-equal branches of government? Presidents are SUPPOSED to obstruct congress.
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The garbage coming out of congressional Dems is even more ridiculous.

1. How does "obstruction of congress" satisfy "high crimes and misdemeanors" as a constitutional prerequisite for impeachment?

2. How is "obstruction of congress" even possible from a president given that the presidency and congress are co-equal branches of government? Presidents are SUPPOSED to obstruct congress.
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The correct process would have been for democrats to take Trump's challenges to the courts. They are in essence the referee. Rather that state their case in the courts and let the circuit or supremes decide they cry obstruction. Waaaaaa!!!!!
 

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Watched a few minutes of CNN last night. Their attempts to spin the IG report were amazing. My favorite was Anderson Cooper claiming that these were "good people doing their best". Would Anderson Cooper ever give the same leeway to republicans who had trampled on the law and civil liberties?
You mean Republicans like Mueller, Comey, Rosenstein, McCabe?

Look, it's great the FBI will need to raise the bar on its FISA warrants but bottom line is the conspiracy theory of some deep state coup has been debunked. Period.
 

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All just innocent over-sites right????
So Page worked for the campaign for ~6 months, FBI leaves out info in the FISA docs to surveil him (after he left campaign btw) but this is the lynchpin the Deep state was using to take down Trumby's campaign? This guy?

Trump announced Page as a foreign policy adviser in his campaign on March 21, 2016. On September 23, 2016, Yahoo News reported U.S. intelligence officials investigated alleged contacts between Page and Russian officials subject to U.S. sanctions, including Igor Sechin, the president of state-run Russian oil conglomerate Rosneft. Page promptly left the Trump campaign. Upon his departure, Trump campaign communications director Jason Miller said of Page, "He’s never been a part of our campaign. Period."