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Am I the only one who thinks this thing looks pretty difficult to surf?
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same ol crap
no need for 100k. we offered to help you get a board to salsa but nope
still didn't answer this question:
If this is so important, why don't the top pros have custom ins made for each of their boards? They're not all sponsored by fin companies so it's not that.
I dont make Free Boards - even for bordporn
no need for 100k. we offered to help you get a board to salsa but nope
still didn't answer this question:
If this is so important, why don't the top pros have custom ins made for each of their boards? They're not all sponsored by fin companies so it's not that.
This is Fresno's - you can ask him how it went
You have seen 100's of videos where Pro's are surprised by how a fin change works or an unridden board works
Not much research by Pros in what will make things best .
Yet you need to ask this when you know the answer .
Keep up the good work ;-)
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Pretty much. I think my second new board was a twin fin in 1977. 5’6 Local Motion shaped by a visiting So. African shaper. It had a red Buzzy Kerbox chevron type band the huge logo lay on.
Got a 5’10 twin in early 2000’s from Wade with glass-on fins that sat in the glass shop forever because no one wanted to glass on fins.
In 2007 Wade made me a pretty big MR type board that I rode to get in surfing shape after getting pretty fat. 6’3 x 20 x 2 13/16. Worked best as a super twin with the MR retros and a small trailer.
In 2015 Kerry made me a 5’8 quad with no center box that I would put in those huge Harvey Ingleby fins and occasionally ride as a twin.
2020 been having a lot of fun riding the twin Kerry just made me.
Twin fins are fun. But according to Aruka I’m riding them wrong cause I try to surf them like my thrusters. Haha. All I want my boards to do is ride the barrel, surf vertical, go fast, get on rail.
There’s a bunch of guys that ride CI boards or CI clones that surf Bowls. I’ll probably see a Fishbeard or two through summer.
I was riding for them about that time. That twin had a triplane hull on it. It was a really, really good west coast small wave board.Reposting this great Pic of Al and a very nice Twin :
I wonder how he would do this video ?
High performane twin fin with a shortboard outline!
Some of the design principles he uses include:
He goes on to say about his designs:
[information taken from an article from minisimmonssurfboards.com "Ode To Tomo Surfboards & Dan Thomson" ]
Some of the design principles he uses include:
- A parallel (straighter) foiled outline with forward widepoint
- Fluid amplification curves, outlines and rocker.
- Hydrofoil / Aerofoil curves } provides significant drag reduction and higher levels of Dynamic surface planing lift.
- Balance of volume in relation to surface planing lift. {L = CL P2 SV2}
He goes on to say about his designs:
This guy is a freaking scientist and goes on to reveal more of his formula here:
- Lengthening of the hard edge (further lift and drag reduction) combined with modern, low volume, medium/ boxy rail profile for sensitive and forgiving rail transitions.
- A parallel fin placement ( 0 degrees tow) will provide excellent control with negligible drag.
- Complex Channel and Concave bottom contours and calculated angular and vector tail profiles have also achieved positive results with low drag control through radical directional changes.
- Custom Designed Power-Drive Fins and Keels (Thomson designed): flex engineered hatchet fins provide increase drive and acceleration through turns with the low drag properties of smaller overall surface area and ability of the fin tips to instantaneously adjust (flex and load) to changing laminar pressures engaged by the rider and environment of the wave, providing constant forward thrust.
[information taken from an article from minisimmonssurfboards.com "Ode To Tomo Surfboards & Dan Thomson" ]
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Welcome back DefrostedPooper!!!!!High performane twin fin with a shortboard outline!
Some of the design principles he uses include:
*SIMMONS FORMULA: Efficient planing surface provide effective lift to counteract the riders weight. Therefore a reduction of physical length, area and volume is necessary.
- A parallel (straighter) foiled outline with forward widepoint
- Fluid amplification curves, outlines and rocker.
- Hydrofoil / Aerofoil curves } provides significant drag reduction and higher levels of Dynamic surface planing lift.
- Balance of volume in relation to surface planing lift. {L = CL P2 SV2}
He goes on to say about his designs:
This guy is a freaking scientist and goes on to reveal more of his formula here:
Ok, here is the visual of this mini artist extraordinaire:
- Lengthening of the hard edge (further lift and drag reduction) combined with modern, low volume, medium/ boxy rail profile for sensitive and forgiving rail transitions.
- A parallel fin placement ( 0 degrees tow) will provide excellent control with negligible drag.
- Complex Channel and Concave bottom contours and calculated angular and vector tail profiles have also achieved positive results with low drag control through radical directional changes.
- Custom Designed Power-Drive Fins and Keels (Thomson designed): flex engineered hatchet fins provide increase drive and acceleration through turns with the low drag properties of smaller overall surface area and ability of the fin tips to instantaneously adjust (flex and load) to changing laminar pressures engaged by the rider and environment of the wave, providing constant forward thrust.
[information taken from an article from minisimmonssurfboards.com "Ode To Tomo Surfboards & Dan Thomson" ]
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tell us more about the fins and their origin.
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I dont make Free Boards - even for bordporn
This is Fresno's - you can ask him how it went
You have seen 100's of videos where Pro's are surprised by how a fin change works or an unridden board works
Not much research by Pros in what will make things best .
Yet you need to ask this when you know the answer .
Keep up the good work ;-)
A lot of people love your boards. I love the outline, foils and especially fins. There's no doubt with that. I just find it odd that you post that "things could be so much better" on other shapers/boards threads.
Most pros on the CT ride the same fins regardless of their board and the Fannings/AM2's were not made specifically for their boards.
When I ordered my twin fin one of the first things Kerry asked me was what fins do you want to use. I asked what do you suggest. He said if you want a performance twin to use the FCS Power Twins. He designed the board, fin placement, sweet spot around that fin selection. He told me to try the MRs if I didn’t like the Power Twin. When I picked up the board he showed me where he thinks I should place my back foot.
I read an interview with Simon Anderson. He said when he is working on a new design he uses the same set of fins when test riding his shapes. That way he can be sure it’s the design changes he makes and not different fins that he’s feeling.
So I always ask Wade what fins he uses when he works on new designs. In fact he got me to change from FCS Fusion plugs to the FCS2 because he wanted me to surf the Large Carvers. Which were the fins he uses when he rides his new designs. I use that as the base fin and adjust from there. But the Large and medium AMs are still my go to fins for thrusters.
Yes my boards don’t come with custom made fins. My shapers are too busy to do that. But because I’m able to talk to them on each order I know what fins were used when the board was designed.
To keep it relating to the original post. The Fishbeard looks fun. I haven’t surfed a keel fin in a long time and have never owned one but the vid makes it look fun.
I read an interview with Simon Anderson. He said when he is working on a new design he uses the same set of fins when test riding his shapes. That way he can be sure it’s the design changes he makes and not different fins that he’s feeling.
So I always ask Wade what fins he uses when he works on new designs. In fact he got me to change from FCS Fusion plugs to the FCS2 because he wanted me to surf the Large Carvers. Which were the fins he uses when he rides his new designs. I use that as the base fin and adjust from there. But the Large and medium AMs are still my go to fins for thrusters.
Yes my boards don’t come with custom made fins. My shapers are too busy to do that. But because I’m able to talk to them on each order I know what fins were used when the board was designed.
To keep it relating to the original post. The Fishbeard looks fun. I haven’t surfed a keel fin in a long time and have never owned one but the vid makes it look fun.
ya when i ordered my stamps shadow i knew the fcs2 gam lg wud werk based on how similar to ss2 tye shadow is. got the fcs2 plugz to run that fin n new shadow is magic with those fins.
SBD
This your view of these posts and not my message
" I just find it odd that you post that "things could be so much better" on other shapers/boards threads."
This New Fishbeard is in the same catagory as my Modern Fish Keel that I have made for several years .
Its harmless to show this . Barry has done the same .
Nothing negative was said other than from my family of trolls .
This your view of these posts and not my message
" I just find it odd that you post that "things could be so much better" on other shapers/boards threads."
This New Fishbeard is in the same catagory as my Modern Fish Keel that I have made for several years .
Its harmless to show this . Barry has done the same .
Nothing negative was said other than from my family of trolls .