Allowing and ignoring lawlessness, rampant drug dealing, and homelessness in Los Angeles is working out fine.

[$kully]

Put the vast majority who are addicts/mentally into mental health facilities (yes, by force if needed).

Anyone living outside in an urban environment is danger to themselves and others. No laws need to be changed to do this.

Instead of building housing the money should go to mental health facilities and care.

Letting these people live and die in the street is cruel.

But socialism!

would this mental health funding only be available to those that are already on the streets? Or would it be available to everyone to ya know prevent people from ending up on the streets in the first place?

 

[kidfury]

Put the vast majority who are addicts/mentally into mental health facilities (yes, by force if needed).

Anyone living outside in an urban environment is danger to themselves and others. No laws need to be changed to do this.

Instead of building housing the money should go to mental health facilities and care.

Letting these people live and die in the street is cruel.

Do you ever complain about Authoritarianism?

 

[kidfury]

We could change laws to take firearms away from dangerous people and hospitalize them for years, if needed. Hell yeah.

 

[VonMeister]

arrest all homeless people?

Only the ones breaking the law.

Also stop incentivizing homelessness and the homeless from out of state to come here.

 

[grapedrink]

We could change laws to take firearms away from dangerous people and hospitalize them for years, if needed. Hell yeah.

Which does nothing to address the homeless and mental health/addiction issues. Try to keep up.

We should have designated areas where encampments are allowed. There's plenty of space in the valley(s) for that. If you lay down a sleeping bag or try to set up a tent outside of those areas, you get a one way trip to a designated encampment area or the appropriate government institution. Your choice

 

[enframed]

Which does nothing to address the homeless and mental health/addiction issues. Try to keep up.

We should have designated areas where encampments are allowed. There's plenty of space in the valley(s) for that. If you lay down a sleeping bag or try to set up a tent outside of those areas, you get a one way trip to a designated encampment area or the appropriate government institution. Your choice

Relocation camps. Yes!

 

[kidfury]

Which does nothing to address the homeless and mental health/addiction issues. Try to keep up.

We should have designated areas where encampments are allowed. There's plenty of space in the valley(s) for that. If you lay down a sleeping bag or try to set up a tent outside of those areas, you get a one way trip to a designated encampment area or the appropriate government institution. Your choice

Can you have guns?

 

[grapedrink]

Relocation camps. Yes!

Is there a problem with that? In my plan you would be welcome to walk the streets all you want, you just can't camp out on them. You are also allowed to come and go as you you please. You would also have a choice- sleep in a designated zone, or a shelter, or a jail.

Do you have a better idea?

 

[grapedrink]

Can you have guns?

I don't have a strong position one way or the other.

 

[One-Off]

Put the vast majority who are addicts/mentally into mental health facilities (yes, by force if needed).

Anyone living outside in an urban environment is danger to themselves and others. No laws need to be changed to do this.

Instead of building housing the money should go to mental health facilities and care.

Letting these people live and die in the street is cruel.

Sounds really expensive. Mental health facilities staffed by professionals - $$$$. And they still have to be housed. Where's the revenue coming from? Forcing them into these facilites also sounds like a great way to start their therapy.

Camps in designated areas? How about in your backyard Grapedrink? Moving them from coastal cities to the "valleys" smacks of coastal elitism.

 

[PRCD]

I'm opposed to any measures. Let them continue to stab and hack. This is what so many Californians voted for, and we will continue to vote this way until enough are stabbed/hacked.

Jab em and stab em.

 

[$kully]

Only the ones breaking the law.

Also stop incentivizing homelessness and the homeless from out of state to come here.

Stop employing undocumented workers incentiving them to come here.

Is there a problem with that? In my plan you would be welcome to walk the streets all you want, you just can't camp out on them. You are also allowed to come and go as you you please. You would also have a choice- sleep in a designated zone, or a shelter, or a jail.

Do you have a better idea?

how would you feel if they designated a zone in your community?

 

[StuAzole]

Put the homeless to work cleaning up LA train tracks where they loot and pillage the sitting rail cars full of goods from LA Harbor.

Put them in housing, but make them earn it by cleaning up the streets and highways.

Is that cruel and unusual punishment to earn your way to a room, bathroom and 3 meal a day?

Constitutional rights be dammed!

 

[grapedrink]

Sounds really expensive. Mental health facilities staffed by professionals - $$$$. And they still have to be housed. Where's the revenue coming from? Forcing them into these facilites also sounds like a great way to start their therapy.

Doing nothing is also expensive. That requires the time of first responders and medical personnel, who are even more expensive than caseworkers and shrinks.

Camps in designated areas? How about in your backyard Grapedrink? Moving them from coastal cities to the "valleys" smacks of coastal elitism.

No, move them to shitholes where nobody wants to live. We have literally billions of acres in this country, along with plenty of parking lots, old military bases, industrial parks, etc that could easily be repurposed.

And yes- desirable areas should be reserved for the people who actually pay to live there, or at the very least those who work there. How is it fair that someone gets to camp out on the beach in Venice, while locals who grew up there and work full time+ jobs are priced out?

And how is it fair that some homeless people get to a shelter spot in LA while others are stuck in Detroit?

If you want to live at the beach, work a job and pay your fookin rent/mortgage like the rest of us.

 

[grapedrink]

how would you feel if they designated a zone in your community?

That would never happen because there isn't even room for those who actually live and work here. Plenty of cheap real estate elsewhere.

 

[kidfury]

Not legal. Illegal.

 

[$kully]

Constitutional rights be dammed!

Freeeeedumb!

 

[PRCD]

That would never happen because there isn't even room for those who actually live and work here. Plenty of cheap real estate elsewhere.

They're doing East Coast-style blockbusting and section 8ing with the dope fiends. A bunch of real-estate interests are behind this so they can buy low and sell high and also get section 8 money directly from the government. Meanwhile a bunch of Calibs will get hacked and stabbed or mauled by pitbulls. I couldn't think of a more-deserving set of voters.

I watched all this go on where I moved from 2 years ago. The voters re-elected the entire BoS and city council. The only thing that'll fix the voters is knives stuck in them, and even then probably not.

 

[enframed]

Relocation camps. Yes!

Is there a problem with that? In my plan you would be welcome to walk the streets all you want, you just can't camp out on them. You are also allowed to come and go as you you please. You would also have a choice- sleep in a designated zone, or a shelter, or a jail.

Do you have a better idea?

No, I don't, but forcing people to relocate is not a good idea. It's a hard problem to solve.

 

[grapedrink]

They're doing East Coast-style blockbusting and section 8ing with the dope fiends. A bunch of real-estate interests are behind this so they can buy low and sell high and also get section 8 money directly from the government. Meanwhile a bunch of Calibs will get hacked and stabbed or mauled by pitbulls. I couldn't think of a more-deserving set of voters.

I watched all this go on where I moved from 2 years ago. The voters re-elected the entire BoS and city council. The only thing that'll fix the voters is knives stuck in them, and even then probably not.

Or Los Angelites can keep voting for Garcetti and other democrats if they think my ideas are too harsh. They can't seem to come up with anything better, and what they are doing now is clearly working out for them