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What about the moonstone? Anyone know the low end compared to the other albums?
Depends how you size the dims but has a large range. I used mine as a 1 board quiver for most of last year. Mines a bit squashed down with more width. I have dedicated stubby micro grovelers that can grovel better, but I've used it from 2'-10' and works well most days. A good dd to keep in the vehicle. Wasn't a fan of the Sunstone I had. Liked a couple of Townsends. Moonstone does a better job low end than those while Townsend more stable/controlled in larger surf
 

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Twinsman vs Lightbender:
I didn’t think my stock 5’7 bender was much better on the low end than my 5’8 Twinsman. I sold it and kept the Twinsman.

Moonstone for gravel:
while it can go into smaller stuff I don’t think it’s more fun than say a plasmic. as duffy said, I think it fits as more of a step up that works as an all arounder. mine is wider and thinner than stink, too.

favorite album boar if only 1:
plasmic, no question.
 

sizzld1

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Is everyone running the Apex twins or similarly upright fins in their Twinsman? I yolo'd one of the last Varial cabrons. I like the construction and I'm used to boards with a decent amount of tail rocker, so the board feels/looks like it should work. Album recommends the Apex twins and I already had a pair so I've been giving them a go. But the board feels like it has no drive with those fins...especially when the surf is shoulder high or below. Anyone have a similar experience and find a solution?
 
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SD_Dan

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Is everyone running the Apex twins or similarly upright fins in their Twinsman? I yolo'd one of the last Varial cabrons. I like the construction and I'm used to boards with a decent amount of tail rocker, so the board feels/looks like it should work. Album recommends the Apex twins and I already had a pair so I've been giving them a go. But the board feels like it has no drive with those fins...especially when the surf is shoulder high or below. Anyone have a similar experience and find a solution?
I was using the NVS Nautilus fins and had a similar experience. For me it was about back foot placement. If my back foot was behind the fins i had zero drive. If my foot was centered over the fins plenty of drive. It was hard for me to find the sweet spot some days
 

Goofy_Footed

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I have a Vesper and really love it - thinking about another Album, for smaller stuff, but still want to keep it performancey... Kind of interested in going asym. Would you guys advise against a Fascination asym or you're really favorable towards the plasmic ?
I have a Fascination for small(er) surf. It's the standard asym tail (not the bat) and it goes very, very well in anything from waist to shoulder, maybe head high. It could gravel if I really needed it to, but Plasmic does a better job at that.

It's 5'6 x 19.63 x 2.25

Pic: https://forum.surfer.com/index.php?threads/album-surfboards.228984/post-3957014
 

Duffy LaCoronilla

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Is everyone running the Apex twins or similarly upright fins in their Twinsman? I yolo'd one of the last Varial cabrons. I like the construction and I'm used to boards with a decent amount of tail rocker, so the board feels/looks like it should work. Album recommends the Apex twins and I already had a pair so I've been giving them a go. But the board feels like it has no drive with those fins...especially when the surf is shoulder high or below. Anyone have a similar experience and find a solution?
I used the NVS Doc Tall Boys.

I also liked the True Ames twins but I could push harder on the tall boys.

Also I only used the TM at shoulder and above.
 

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I ended up preferring these twins the most in my Twinsman and didn't really care for the Apex twins.


I had similar problems as the others here. It often felt sluggish and was hit or miss, which may have been a result of sensitivity to foot placement; I never paid it all that much thought.

Things may have changed if I had dialed it in, but I never got that far. I tried one twice, and it always ended up selling pretty quickly.

For me, there are just much better high-performance twins out there.
 

Makoman

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I really like NVS Album uprights in my Twinbender (favorite so far) and Plasmic (definitely a keeper.) They still didn't stop the Twinsman RP from barking like a dog but I haven't completely given up on it yet. That being said I never ever sell boards but if someone really wanted my Twinsman it would among the first to go.
 

Duffy LaCoronilla

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I ended up preferring these twins the most in my Twinsman and didn't really care for the Apex twins.


I had similar problems as the others here. It often felt sluggish and was hit or miss, which may have been a result of sensitivity to foot placement; I never paid it all that much thought.

Things may have changed if I had dialed it in, but I never got that far. I tried one twice, and it always ended up selling pretty quickly.

For me, there are just much better high-performance twins out there.
I’ve heard this a lot and kind of experienced the same-ish.

TM round pin - piece of sh!t. In fact after I sold it I saw it for sale on CList over and over by different sellers. I think it was 6 or 7 different people that went through it in a few months.

TM wider/shorter than stock - never liked it. Sold it.

TM that I think was stock, no dims on it and I was told “5’11” but never measured it - Dark Arts - clicked right away. Board ripped. Recently sold because I have an Alpha Omega and just never had any more interest in riding the TM.

I’ve said this before but it fits so well. My DA Twinsman was a Ferrari. My Alpha Omega is a fucking space ship.
 

oeste858

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Is everyone running the Apex twins or similarly upright fins in their Twinsman? I yolo'd one of the last Varial cabrons. I like the construction and I'm used to boards with a decent amount of tail rocker, so the board feels/looks like it should work. Album recommends the Apex twins and I already had a pair so I've been giving them a go. But the board feels like it has no drive with those fins...especially when the surf is shoulder high or below. Anyone have a similar experience and find a solution?
I’ve never tried the NVS fins, but I use the Shapers Album uprights and IMO they have been a perfect fit from day 1. Like Duffy, I really only use TMST in decent surf for SD (chest high to head) and I haven’t any issues with drive. I suspect SDDan may have a point about foot placement. I’m usually driving with my front foot and on turns my back foot is probably just over the fins if not ever so slightly ahead of fins- but never behind. It felt intuitive right away for me but it certainly seems not to click for many.
assuming no pad, you might try drawing a line in the wax where the fins are and just double check your foot placement off that in the water next time you’re feeling that lack of drive
 

sizzld1

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Solid advice. Thanks. Archer, not bow. Lol. I'm going to focus on backfoot placement next session and see how it goes.
 

chilly1

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I have a Vesper and really love it - thinking about another Album, for smaller stuff, but still want to keep it performancey... Kind of interested in going asym. I'm thinking Fascination asym ... or fuggetabout the asym and just get a plasmic ?
Can't go wrong with Plasmic, if you're interested in asym, he can make that, I think Oestee has one. Sounds like an unreal combo
 
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chilly1

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What about the moonstone? Anyone know the low end compared to the other albums?
These boards at midlength cary speed, but turn drawn out, mine shined at head high, but I would not pick this one has a groveler. I had a blast on this when the waves were lined up, but overall the range was pretty limited, so I got rid of it. The Vesper is something that has a better low range and performs in larger surf better as well, FYI.
 
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chilly1

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Twinsman vs Lightbender:
I didn’t think my stock 5’7 bender was much better on the low end than my 5’8 Twinsman. I sold it and kept the Twinsman.

Moonstone for gravel:
while it can go into smaller stuff I don’t think it’s more fun than say a plasmic. as duffy said, I think it fits as more of a step up that works as an all arounder. mine is wider and thinner than stink, too.

favorite album boar if only 1:
plasmic, no question.
Interesting, as I find my Lightbender (carbon Varial) is far better low-end, like really good, my twinsman has no release in shapeles waves. Twinsman probably one of the best boards Ive had tho, but in the conditions its suited for fun-good waves with more vertical shape.
 

chilly1

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Is everyone running the Apex twins or similarly upright fins in their Twinsman? I yolo'd one of the last Varial cabrons. I like the construction and I'm used to boards with a decent amount of tail rocker, so the board feels/looks like it should work. Album recommends the Apex twins and I already had a pair so I've been giving them a go. But the board feels like it has no drive with those fins...especially when the surf is shoulder high or below. Anyone have a similar experience and find a solution?
Shapers twins