Africa, the Dark Continent.... an educational eye opener!

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Africa, the Dark Continent....an educated eye opener!

What I Learned in the Peace Corps in Africa

By Karin McQuillan
January 17, 2018

Three weeks after college, I flew to Senegal, West Africa, to run a community center in a rural town. Life was placid, with no danger, except to your health. That danger was considerable, because it was, in the words of the Peace Corps doctor, "a fecalized environment"

In plain English: s--- is everywhere. People defecate on the open ground, and the feces is blown with the dust onto you, your clothes, your food, the water. He warned us the first day of training: do not even touch water. Human feces carries parasites that bore through your skin and cause organ failure.

Never in my wildest dreams would I have imagined that a few decades later, liberals would be pushing the lie that Western civilization is no better than a third-world country. Or would teach two generations of our kids that loving your own culture and wanting to preserve it are racism.

Last time I was in Paris, I saw a beautiful African woman in a grand boubou have her child defecate on the sidewalk next to Notre Dame Cathedral. The French police officer, ten steps from her, turned his head not to see.
I have seen. I am not turning my head and pretending unpleasant things are not true.

Senegal was not a hellhole. Very poor people can lead happy, meaningful lives in their own cultures' terms. But they are not our terms. The excrement is the least of it. Our basic ideas of human relations, right and wrong, are incompatible.

As a twenty-one-year-old starting out in the Peace Corps, I loved Senegal. In fact, I was euphoric. I quickly made friends and had an adopted family. I relished the feeling of the brotherhood of man. People were open, willing to share their lives and, after they knew you, their innermost thoughts.

The longer I lived there, the more I understood: it became blindingly obvious that the Senegalese are not the same as us. The truths we hold to be self-evident are not evident to the Senegalese. How could they be? Their reality is totally different. You can't understand anything in Senegal using American terms.

Take something as basic as family. Family was a few hundred people, extending out to second and third cousins. All the men in one generation were called "father." Senegalese are Muslim, with up to four wives. Girls had their clitorises cut off at puberty. (I witnessed this, at what I thought was going to be a nice coming-of-age ceremony, like a bat mitzvah or confirmation.) Sex, I was told, did not include kissing. Love and friendship in marriage were Western ideas. Fidelity was not a thing. Married women would have sex for a few cents to have cash for the market.What I did witness every day was that women were worked half to death. Wives raised the food and fed their own children, did the heavy labor of walking miles to gather wood for the fire, drew water from the well or public faucet, pounded grain with heavy hand-held pestles, lived in their own huts, and had conjugal visits from their husbands on a rotating basis with their co-wives. Their husbands lazed in the shade of the trees.
Yemily was crucial to people there in a way Americans cannot comprehend.

The Ten Commandments were not disobeyed as they were unknown. The value system was the exact opposite. You were supposed to steal everything you can to give to your own relatives. There are some Westernized Africans who try to rebel against the system. They fail.

We hear a lot about the kleptocratic elites of Africa. The kleptocracy extends through the whole society. My town had a medical clinic donated by international agencies. The medicine was stolen by the medical workers and sold to the local store. If you were sick and didn't have money, drop dead. That was normal.

So here in the States, when we discovered that my 98-year-old father's Muslim health aide from Nigeria had stolen his clothes and wasn't bathing him, I wasn't surprised. It was familiar.

In Senegal, corruption ruled, from top to bottom. Go to the post office, and the clerk would name an outrageous price for a stamp. After paying the bribe, you still didn't know it if it would be mailed or thrown out. That was normal.

One of my most vivid memories was from the clinic. One day, as the wait grew hotter in the 110-degree heat, an old woman two feet from the medical aides who were chatting in the shade of a mango tree instead of working collapsed to the ground. They turned their heads so as not to see her and kept talking. She lay there in the dirt. Callousness to the sick was normal.

Americans think it is a universal human instinct to do unto others as you would have them do unto you. It's not. It seems natural to us because we live in a Bible-based Judeo-Christian culture

We think the Protestant work ethic is universal. It's not. My town was full of young men doing nothing. They were waiting for a government job. There was no private enterprise. Private business was not illegal, just impossible, given the nightmare of a third-world bureaucratic kleptocracy. It is also incompatible with Senegalese insistence on taking care of relatives.

All the little stores in Senegal were owned by Mauritanians. If a Senegalese wanted to run a little store, he'd go to another country. The reason? Your friends and relatives would ask you for stuff for free, and you would have to say yes. End of your business. You are not allowed to be a selfish individual and say no to relatives. The result: Everyone has nothing.

The more I worked there and visited government officials doing absolutely nothing, the more I realized that no one in Senegal had the idea that a job means work A job is something given to you by a relative. It provides the place where you steal everything to give back to your family.

I couldn't wait to get home. So why would I want to bring Africa here? Non-Westerners do not magically become American by arriving on our shores with a visa.

For the rest of my life, I enjoyed the greatest gift of the Peace Corps: I love and treasure America more than ever. I take seriously my responsibility to defend our culture and our country and pass on the American heritage to the next generation.

African problems are made worse by our aid efforts Senegal is full of smart, capable people. They will eventually solve their own country's problems. They will do it on their terms, not ours. The solution is not to bring Africans here.

We are lectured by leftists that we must privilege third-world immigration by the hundred million with chain migration. They tell us we must end America as a white , Western, Judeo-Christian, capitalist nation “ to prove we are not racist.” I don't need to prove a thing. Leftists want open borders because they resent whites, resent Western achievements, and hate America. They will destroy America as we know it.

Trump asked, why would we do that?

We have the right to choose what kind of country to live in. I was happy to donate a year of my life as a young woman to help the poor Senegalese I am not willing to donate my country.
 

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that's a really long lead up to a bad straw man fallacy....

We are lectured by leftists that we must privilege third-world immigration by the hundred million with chain migration. They tell us we must end America as a white , Western, Judeo-Christian, capitalist nation “ to prove we are not racist.” I don't need to prove a thing. Leftists want open borders because they resent whites, resent Western achievements, and hate America. They will destroy America as we know it.
 

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afoaf said:
that's a really long lead up to a bad straw man fallacy....

We are lectured by leftists that we must privilege third-world immigration by the hundred million with chain migration. They tell us we must end America as a white , Western, Judeo-Christian, capitalist nation “ to prove we are not racist.” I don't need to prove a thing. Leftists want open borders because they resent whites, resent Western achievements, and hate America. They will destroy America as we know it.

Is Serbia still known as the Senegal of Eastern Europe?

You'd fit in quite well there afoaf, maybe get yourself some hot African love.
 

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in Serbia or Senegal?

I don't think I'd do well in either.



we let in like a million people a year...not a hundred million, and not without quotas

it's a lot of histrionics to support a fabricated issue

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States
 

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The writer should have left Jesus and politics out of it. A simple description of conditions in west Africa would speak for itself.
 

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Close friend of mine spent 4yrs in Mozambique with the peace corps right around y2k. He loved it so much he reenlisted for another 4yrs and still goes back on his own every year or two.

Also when my father was dying he had end of life insurance and it covered a home healthcare aid. We had a gentleman named Clement come stay with us. He was from Ghana. He lived with us for over a month. He sat at our table, ate with us and we made him welcome in our home. I'll admit there were a few moments where the cultural differences were apparent. But all in all he never stole a thing from us. Was humble, honorable, did his job well and earned my fathers trust and friendship in his last months in this world. Oddly enough the only real criticism I had with him were his Christian beliefs, they were a bit much and at times he wore them on his sleeve.
 

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she was there one year 46 years ago.

My experience traveling in Africa, thankfully was like the one below. The one above sounds more like San Francisco.
https://peacecorpsworldwide.org/this-is-all-that-karin-mcquillan-has-to-say-senegal/

another perspective:
January 13, 2018.
A word from a Peace Corps volunteer
For two years I lived in a “shithole country.” Arguably, one of the shittiest of “shithole” countries. Niger, (nee-jher) in West Africa, perpetually at or near the bottom of the list of the world’s poorest countries. A country with the highest birth rate and similarly low life expectancy. This is a landlocked country with only two main paved roads, frequent drought and subsistence farmers who are among the most generous people I have ever met in my life. It’s also a country that recently had a coup. Not to undermine democracy, but in support of it. The army overthrew a president — who refused to step down after his constitutionally permitted two terms of five years — so that democratic elections could be held. This is a country whose societal motto is “my guest is my god,” and as a Peace Corpsvolunteer I couldn’t have felt safer or more cared for. Like most of us, they worked hard, loved their families and did not want to move from their homes. When people emigrated it was typically out of desperation to make an income to send back to their families; insecurity due to small but potent extremist groups; or climate change that rendered fields fallow and wells dry. If the President wants to keep people who don’t want to otherwise leave their homes from coming to the US, then he can use the power of his office to improve the conditions that make their employment and living situations untenable.
Signed: Kelly McNicholas Kury, Aspen
 

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Eye opener?

She didn't seem to learn much in her time there. And it's sad that it made her double down on her sense of exceptionalism (which is not the same as patriotism).

I spent three years in Sierra Leone, which is nothing. As one priest who had lived there for over 25 years told me, "The first three years are the hardest. You don't know anything. And remember, people just passing through do as much damage as good."

There was a local saying- "To know nothing better is to want nothing more." Meaning that the people in the remote villages who had little or no contact with westerners were happier. Instead, the ones in the cities and towns would see us with our cameras, walkmans (that dates me- iPods I assume now), fine clothes, crepes (shoes) and all our other trappings and they would develop the desire to have those things. And be unhappy because they didn't have them. And we, those passing through with no intention of staying, were the agents of that emptiness.

One of the first things I learned, which she does not acknowledge, is that Africa is a frikkin continent, the biggest one, and for her to generalize about "Africans" based on her extremely limited experience of Senegal is just simple minded. The students I taught were 100% obedient. Never had a single discipline problem. I met someone who taught in Cameroon whose experience was the opposite.

Sierra Leone is about the size of Arizona. When I got there I figured the first thing I should do was learn the language. The principal at my school explained to me that there are 16 principal languages in Sierra Leone, as different one from another as Chinese is from English. The students at the school I taught came from all over the country, so learning one language would help me communicate with only a small percentage of my students. Furthermore, because the languages have no Greco Roman roots it would not be like learning Spanish. It would be like trying to learn Mandarin. In three years I would have only the most rudimentary knowledge. So I gave up my goal of learning the language.

Another thing she exhibits, which is common among ex-pats, and of which I myself was guilty, is dwelling on all the negative aspects of the culture. When you do that you cannot learn what the people have to offer.

She moralizes about Judeo Christian monogamous family values (without acknowledging the prevalence of divorce and broken families in the US) and criticizes their lack of a "do unto others" spirit. Instead what I would say is that their loose, extended family, which as she points out can extend to over a hundred people, is a much more concrete practice of do unto others. There's a difference between what a Christian will do for their blood brother and what they will do for "others." Instead Sierra Leoneans "brothers" are really like brothers- you let them sleep in your house and eat meals with them. It was their social safety net.

And I got schooled by my students about the "Protestant work ethic" once when I told my students, who were not, in my estimation, working hard enough (I taught technical drawing, masonry and building construction)- "Come on guys! Time is money." They told me they did not share Americans need to "monetize everything." They couldn't believe I said time was money. These were high school kids in one of the least developed countries in the world and they were very self aware and more worldly than most American kids.

She says the greatest gift of the Peace Corps was "I love and treasure America more than ever. I take seriously my responsibility to defend our culture and our country and pass on the American heritage to the next generation." I would say the greatest gift I got was humility and the recognition that all countries, or better yet- all cultures (because, as I said before, the nation state does not define the people I was with) have value. And most of all that all PEOPLE are like me, they value their lives and are deserving of respect. You can be exceptional and still recognize that others are equally exceptional.

She ends with sweeping generalizations and misrepresentations of what "leftists" want. It's obvious she does not recognize the plurality and individuality of the "left" just as she probably never saw the Senegalese as individuals, as persons, but rather as "them," as "others."

John, eye opener? Open wider. And always have the humility to admit our eyes can never be fully open. Too some extent we will always see what we want to see.
 

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Eye opener?

She didn't seem to learn much in her time there. And it's sad that it made her double down on her sense of exceptionalism (which is not the same as patriotism).

I spent three years in Sierra Leone, which is nothing. As one priest who had lived there for over 25 years told me, "The first three years are the hardest. You don't know anything. And remember, people just passing through do as much damage as good."

There was a local saying- "To know nothing better is to want nothing more." Meaning that the people in the remote villages who had little or no contact with westerners were happier. Instead, the ones in the cities and towns would see us with our cameras, walkmans (that dates me- iPods I assume now), fine clothes, crepes (shoes) and all our other trappings and they would develop the desire to have those things. And be unhappy because they didn't have them. And we, those passing through with no intention of staying, were the agents of that emptiness.

One of the first things I learned, which she does not acknowledge, is that Africa is a frikkin continent, the biggest one, and for her to generalize about "Africans" based on her extremely limited experience of Senegal is just simple minded. The students I taught were 100% obedient. Never had a single discipline problem. I met someone who taught in Cameroon whose experience was the opposite.

Sierra Leone is about the size of Arizona. When I got there I figured the first thing I should do was learn the language. The principal at my school explained to me that there are 16 principal languages in Sierra Leone, as different one from another as Chinese is from English. The students at the school I taught came from all over the country, so learning one language would help me communicate with only a small percentage of my students. Furthermore, because the languages have no Greco Roman roots it would not be like learning Spanish. It would be like trying to learn Mandarin. In three years I would have only the most rudimentary knowledge. So I gave up my goal of learning the language.

Another thing she exhibits, which is common among ex-pats, and of which I myself was guilty, is dwelling on all the negative aspects of the culture. When you do that you cannot learn what the people have to offer.

She moralizes about Judeo Christian monogamous family values (without acknowledging the prevalence of divorce and broken families in the US) and criticizes their lack of a "do unto others" spirit. Instead what I would say is that their loose, extended family, which as she points out can extend to over a hundred people, is a much more concrete practice of do unto others. There's a difference between what a Christian will do for their blood brother and what they will do for "others." Instead Sierra Leoneans "brothers" are really like brothers- you let them sleep in your house and eat meals with them. It was their social safety net.

And I got schooled by my students about the "Protestant work ethic" once when I told my students, who were not, in my estimation, working hard enough (I taught technical drawing, masonry and building construction)- "Come on guys! Time is money." They told me they did not share Americans need to "monetize everything." They couldn't believe I said time was money. These were high school kids in one of the least developed countries in the world and they were very self aware and more worldly than most American kids.

She says the greatest gift of the Peace Corps was "I love and treasure America more than ever. I take seriously my responsibility to defend our culture and our country and pass on the American heritage to the next generation." I would say the greatest gift I got was humility and the recognition that all countries, or better yet- all cultures (because, as I said before, the nation state does not define the people I was with) have value. And most of all that all PEOPLE are like me, they value their lives and are deserving of respect. You can be exceptional and still recognize that others are equally exceptional.

She ends with sweeping generalizations and misrepresentations of what "leftists" want. It's obvious she does not recognize the plurality and individuality of the "left" just as she probably never saw the Senegalese as individuals, as persons, but rather as "them," as "others."

John, eye opener? Open wider. And always have the humility to admit our eyes can never be fully open. Too some extent we will always see what we want to see.
A+ post. Thank you.
 

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lulz

What's better/worse will be a moral judgement. That actually isn't the point of social cohesion. Two societies with diametrically opposed values can both be functional so long as each has their own internal cohesion. Its when there's significant internal conflict that things start to break down. That's as true in a criminal gang as it is in your own home.

What's interesting to me is that, setting aside the moralizing of both accounts, they both explicitly acknowledge that on a practical basis disparate cultures will not necessarily be complimentary to one another nor will an individual with values that conflict with the local environment be functional unless/until they can adapt (i.e., change).

The environment never adapts to the individual. It is the individual who adapts to the environment. It should be self-evident that the observation that "people passing through do more damage than good" doesn't just work in the one direction. Cultures and individual worldviews are not interchangeable widgets.
 

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patrolman said:
Eye opener?

She didn't seem to learn much in her time there. And it's sad that it made her double down on her sense of exceptionalism (which is not the same as patriotism).

I spent three years in Sierra Leone, which is nothing. As one priest who had lived there for over 25 years told me, "The first three years are the hardest. You don't know anything. And remember, people just passing through do as much damage as good."

There was a local saying- "To know nothing better is to want nothing more." Meaning that the people in the remote villages who had little or no contact with westerners were happier. Instead, the ones in the cities and towns would see us with our cameras, walkmans (that dates me- iPods I assume now), fine clothes, crepes (shoes) and all our other trappings and they would develop the desire to have those things. And be unhappy because they didn't have them. And we, those passing through with no intention of staying, were the agents of that emptiness.

One of the first things I learned, which she does not acknowledge, is that Africa is a frikkin continent, the biggest one, and for her to generalize about "Africans" based on her extremely limited experience of Senegal is just simple minded. The students I taught were 100% obedient. Never had a single discipline problem. I met someone who taught in Cameroon whose experience was the opposite.

Sierra Leone is about the size of Arizona. When I got there I figured the first thing I should do was learn the language. The principal at my school explained to me that there are 16 principal languages in Sierra Leone, as different one from another as Chinese is from English. The students at the school I taught came from all over the country, so learning one language would help me communicate with only a small percentage of my students. Furthermore, because the languages have no Greco Roman roots it would not be like learning Spanish. It would be like trying to learn Mandarin. In three years I would have only the most rudimentary knowledge. So I gave up my goal of learning the language.

Another thing she exhibits, which is common among ex-pats, and of which I myself was guilty, is dwelling on all the negative aspects of the culture. When you do that you cannot learn what the people have to offer.

She moralizes about Judeo Christian monogamous family values (without acknowledging the prevalence of divorce and broken families in the US) and criticizes their lack of a "do unto others" spirit. Instead what I would say is that their loose, extended family, which as she points out can extend to over a hundred people, is a much more concrete practice of do unto others. There's a difference between what a Christian will do for their blood brother and what they will do for "others." Instead Sierra Leoneans "brothers" are really like brothers- you let them sleep in your house and eat meals with them. It was their social safety net.

And I got schooled by my students about the "Protestant work ethic" once when I told my students, who were not, in my estimation, working hard enough (I taught technical drawing, masonry and building construction)- "Come on guys! Time is money." They told me they did not share Americans need to "monetize everything." They couldn't believe I said time was money. These were high school kids in one of the least developed countries in the world and they were very self aware and more worldly than most American kids.

She says the greatest gift of the Peace Corps was "I love and treasure America more than ever. I take seriously my responsibility to defend our culture and our country and pass on the American heritage to the next generation." I would say the greatest gift I got was humility and the recognition that all countries, or better yet- all cultures (because, as I said before, the nation state does not define the people I was with) have value. And most of all that all PEOPLE are like me, they value their lives and are deserving of respect. You can be exceptional and still recognize that others are equally exceptional.

She ends with sweeping generalizations and misrepresentations of what "leftists" want. It's obvious she does not recognize the plurality and individuality of the "left" just as she probably never saw the Senegalese as individuals, as persons, but rather as "them," as "others."

John, eye opener? Open wider. And always have the humility to admit our eyes can never be fully open. Too some extent we will always see what we want to see.
A++
 

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GDaddy said:
lulz

What's better/worse will be a moral judgement. That actually isn't the point of social cohesion. Two societies with diametrically opposed values can both be functional so long as each has their own internal cohesion. Its when there's significant internal conflict that things start to break down. That's as true in a criminal gang as it is in your own home.

What's interesting to me is that, setting aside the moralizing of both accounts, they both explicitly acknowledge that on a practical basis disparate cultures will not necessarily be complimentary to one another nor will an individual with values that conflict with the local environment be functional unless/until they can adapt (i.e., change).

The environment never adapts to the individual. It is the individual who adapts to the environment. It should be self-evident that the observation that "people passing through do more damage than good" doesn't just work in the one direction. Cultures and individual worldviews are not interchangeable widgets.
What human societies have 'diametrically opposed values'? Always creating enemies that don't exist.

And the idea the environment doesn't adapt to human presence is wrong. On the micro and macro scale the environment is constantly adapting/changing because of our actions.
 

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heelnipstr said:
GDaddy said:
lulz

What's better/worse will be a moral judgement. That actually isn't the point of social cohesion. Two societies with diametrically opposed values can both be functional so long as each has their own internal cohesion. Its when there's significant internal conflict that things start to break down. That's as true in a criminal gang as it is in your own home.

What's interesting to me is that, setting aside the moralizing of both accounts, they both explicitly acknowledge that on a practical basis disparate cultures will not necessarily be complimentary to one another nor will an individual with values that conflict with the local environment be functional unless/until they can adapt (i.e., change).

The environment never adapts to the individual. It is the individual who adapts to the environment. It should be self-evident that the observation that "people passing through do more damage than good" doesn't just work in the one direction. Cultures and individual worldviews are not interchangeable widgets.
What human societies have 'diametrically opposed values'? Always creating enemies that don't exist.
Incredible, isn't it?

But we can't use the R or the X word because they're overused.
 

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What I notice is how much the children of immigrants become Americanized.

They can't help it.

China is going to have a go a settling Africa's hash.

That should be interesting because they are old school.

That chick who wrote that article is a dumb bitch.


Trump made it okay for stupid people to voice stupid ideas.


MAGA!
 

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Excellent observations Patrolman! I have not been back to the Continent since the 1980s (business took me to Zimbabwe, Nigeria and South Africa pre and post apartheid). Notwithstanding her apparent Republican earnings, I found some of her observations pretty spot on with my admittedly decades old experiences on the Continent. Again, great observations and I truly had no political motivation for posting her letter. john
 

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What human societies have 'diametrically opposed values'? Always creating enemies that don't exist.
they poop on the ground and they think murder is ok

west is best because we don't poop on the ground (anymore)

the reality is that human societies are human and humans by and large have shared mores and values
that developed over eons
 

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I spent 3 weeks in Gabon about 13 years ago. A lot of her observations (which =/= opinions) also applied there. A lot of men sat around drinking all day while the women and immigrants from neighboring countries did all the work. Any house with a fridge and some plastic chairs was a watering hole. The president was seen as a humanitarian because he only kept 40% of the national oil revenue, compared to neighboring countries where the leaders kept all of it.
The best food was made from immigrants who set up little food stalls, while the locals complained that there were no locally owned restaurants (sound familiar?). There was a Nigerian guy who grilled steak over a repurposed oil drum, then put it in a baguette with mustard and chili sauce :facelick:
Also, there was always unattended fire somewhere in town on any given day. Even saw one right next to a gas station :roflmao: :drowning: