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14 Students and a teacher dead at a Texas Elementary School
- Thread starter $kully
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I’m one of the few lefty’s that are against the idea of weapons bans. The Mini 14 functions nearly the same as an AR15, it’s just missing a pistol grip, which is a nearly pointless distinction.
My problem is with the lack of waiting periods and meaningful background checks.
I think you even floated the idea of pushing the age from 18 to 21, which I agree with.
Anyone who thinks the average 18 - 25 year old male is responsible, go shop for car insurance.
Maybe you can only own a gun if you own property? Apply that to voting too?
Or were you referring to arming mentally ill people with possessing homeless as a self-defense weapon? The sane deserve the rights to possess similar weaponry.
I mean, all these scenarios are intriguing, but which one were you going for?
I’m not against weapons bans, they clearly work elsewhere, however I think they’ll be futile at this point with how armed america already is. But I do think there’s a lot we can do to make it more difficult for the wrong people to purchase firearms and for gunowners to take on more liability and responsibility for their firearms. Even if this comes at an inconvenience and expense to the good guys with guns. This includes passing laws where adults are liable both criminally and civilly for crimes committed with firearms by minors or others in their houses if found that the firearms weren’t properly secured.
What really bugs me is the Surfdogian all or nothing attitude many on the right take. I’m well aware that there is no magic cure-all for this problem. There are too many guns and too many people. Someone will always slip through the net or find a way. Throwing our hands up in the air and making it easier for them because FREEDOM is a bit silly. We have the first amendment but I can’t yell FIRE in a movie theater.
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That was surprisingly rational.
Who are you and what have you done with our little Skully?!?
From my *favorite* publication
It’s Time to Stop Using the ‘Fire in a Crowded Theater’ Quote
Oliver Wendell Holmes made the analogy during a controversial Supreme Court case that was overturned more than 40 years ago.
www.theatlantic.com
As an aside, look how much the Atlantic (and the Left) has changed in 10 years
...how armed America already is... doesn’t matter because doors. Had there only been blast proof doors at the grocery store in Buffalo...
The 21 year old minimum (in California) was ruled unconstitutional (circuit court).
Basically at 18 you’re a legal adult and there are no other constitutional protections requiring you to be 21 to be covered by them.
The 10 day waiting period (also CA) was ruled unconstitutional as applied to current gun owners. The idea of the 10 day wait was a “cooling off period”. That justification doesn’t apply to people who already own firearms.
Both of these laws are still in effect in CA as they work their way to the Supreme Court.
Yeah, sick of hearing it. I stopped responding to that idiocy.From my *favorite* publication
It’s Time to Stop Using the ‘Fire in a Crowded Theater’ Quote
Oliver Wendell Holmes made the analogy during a controversial Supreme Court case that was overturned more than 40 years ago.
As an aside, look how much the Atlantic (and the Left) has changed in 10 years
Also “what about roads!!!!!”
Seriously?understandable....but....have u ever fired a Bushmaster?
my first time using one i popped one round....and found myself wondering how a
cannon had been turned into a rifle..
My son has been shooting an AR since he was 12.
We still haven’t been informed as to how a guy who worked at Burger King paid for that sh!t.
It has a purpose but today it's mostly for the gun equivalent of furries.
Feral hogs are a huge problem for ranchers in the Southwest. Companies like Wilson Combat make purpose built rifles on the AR15 specific for this purpose. It's the tool for the job.
BY FAR pistols are the #1 weapon of choice for murders in America. #2 is a rounding error in comparison. I've said it on here dozens of times...I would be perfectly OK with restrictions or bans on pistols. They are easy to conceal which makes them a prime gun for gun related crimes and have almost zero utility for home defense. Most people can't operate one with any skill on a range and during a stress event forget it. They just don't have the word "assault" in them so the gun grabbers don't get erect when talking about them.
What happened at the school and every other mass shooting in the US is just a weekend in Chicago. Focus on the criminals and actually prosecute them when they break the law and murders would drop to statistical zero in the US.