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waxfoot, although I can't remember every message on this thread I have followed it from start to here and there are people on this thread who said they made their backs worse with squats/deadlifts. If the physio or specialist says its alright to go ahead and do them, then that's different.
llilibel, I seem to remember way back in this thread that it wasn't until you started listening to your physio (I think second one you had) that your back started to show significant progress i.e he told you to lay off the barbell and focus on the other things he gave you, planking, mountain climbers, flexion etc.
Not sure if I elaborated in that other thread that we touched on the subject, but the TL;DR of it is, that there's nothing on the MRI that stands out as "whoaa, that's clearly the issue here", but given that I've had 6 years of pain, there must be something there, as I'm certainly not imagining it. I'm going for further scans to see if anything else shows up, as the aggressive treatment of fusing has a high failure rate in pain treatment.
I suppose grit your teeth and get that needle stuck in your arm and in the meantime enjoy whatever surfing you can manage... At the moment, I'm just working up the courage to go for the next scan, as I'm a recovering needle-phobe ... so the prospect of a needle in my arm scares the sh!t out of me
I think they were breathing back then also. Are we sure that wasn’t the cause?
Hey Mr J. My second PT was a she (and very easy on the eyes). Most of the work was by phone because the virus hit. After a couple months she gave the green light for barbell work, just said to go slow and incrementally. I've been doing it since. It has not caused any problems.
(if I die surfing I'll be one those people who died doing what they love) . I wore my heart rate monitor once doing my girly weight routine and was shocked to see how high my heart rate went up. And so quickly. Don't know why strength training is not considered cardio? Maybe it's just not sustained long enough?
Strength training will raise your systolic pressure during training, which will come down during rest and return to normal quickly after you're done. Your heart rate will increase but not as much as when you run.Hey Mr J. My second PT was a she (and very easy on the eyes). Most of the work was by phone because the virus hit. After a couple months she gave the green light for barbell work, just said to go slow and incrementally. I've been doing it since. It has not caused any problems.
For Havoc and VM, another reason I'm trying to figure out what (lighter) weight work for me is because my cardiologist expressly forbade me from going heavy. Anything that shoots my heart rate up really high is considered a risk. I can manage that risk easily while running (I'm supposed to wear a heart rate monitor but have stopped because I kind of know what's going on now) and I'm willing to take the risk surfing
My question was just trying to figure out how to target my back since I never get DOMS in the back and so I wonder if I'm doing anything, making any progress. I realize that even doing body weight stuff my glutes and hamstrings are involved, but that is not my target or goal.
He's doing the same girly weight as I am!
I'm sure he back squats and looking at the thickness of his back he for sure deadlifts. Light weight power cleans are good for anaerobic stress....anaerobic training by and large being the only land based training that correlates to surfing.
Wouldn't he be better off doing a low back squat?
My cardiologist knows I'm lifting. He just said don't go really heavy (although that is pretty subjective) and to watch the heart rate. I just had a phone appt with him this week and he gave me green light to use creatine, Autoprax's miracle drug. I guess as long as I go slow and incrementally I could conceivably increase weight over time without stressing the heart too much...
if your specialists say its ok for you to lift, then that is good. Good mornings, bent rows and deadlifts all put some load on the lower back from my experience.
no no, you misunderstand me (or was deliberately misquoting). I think weight training is great, I was just suggesting check with the specialists first before trying it. Some of the people here are reporting quite severe symptoms.
Some guy trips over a barbell and Mr J uses it as proof that barbells are no good for your back. How this level of being dense is compatible with life just proves the resiliency of the human body.
You can certainly get stronger with lighter weights. Strength is the result when you recover from accumulated stress. At some point very soon you will be at a point where it's going to take a whole lot of time for you to accumulate enough stress to drive a strength adaptation...so the resistance needs to go up.
I would never suggest that strength training is a method to blindly apply to someone who is in real pain. Strength training is a means to protect yourself from injury and a valuable tool during the rehab phase to 1. help with recovery by using managed activity, and 2. to get a person stronger so their bodies are better equipped to resist the forces that cause injury to begin with.
