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“I just want to find 11,780 votes”
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What do the conspirators say about this one?
Dude says the whole videos, not just the clips picked out by Giuliani et. al., are available for your viewing? Anyone watched em yet?
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Yeah he was fascinating to watch, seemed more upset by all this than the dude talking. Propaganda for the Deaf.i love the enthusiasm of the sign language guy
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It's gonna be dangerous to associate with Trump after this.
I think being president will be the worst financial decision he ever made.
Why wasn’t rudy on that call?
He’s saying that any republicans against overturning the election results should leave the party.
That’d be interesting, no?
He’s saying that any republicans against overturning the election results should leave the party.
That’d be interesting, no?
I swear to god, guys, if I turn in to a fear-addled boor like these other
cliche and cartoonish old white men please just shoot me in my fkn
sleep because it's a goddamn embarrassment
cliche and cartoonish old white men please just shoot me in my fkn
sleep because it's a goddamn embarrassment
Explain "emergency ballots" and how they are stored, accessed and handled at the last minute or days prior to an election?
There are reams of these "emergency" absentee ballots stored in warehouses, in case they are needed at the polls, last minute. Someone can decide these need to be "released" at the last minute. Where is the oversight on these?
BTW, not all states even have barcode or QR ID's on ballots anymore.
https://www.govtech.com/civic/Colorado-the-First-State-to-Remove-Bar-Codes-from-Ballots.html
As for our bet, and according to erBB resident lawyer, since it was a guilty plea and the judge accepted it, neither of us "won" the bet, as originally agreed on.
A guilty plea is self-conviction. A sentencing hearing date CAN NOT BE ASSIGNED OR HAPPEN until a defendant is convicted of his guilt. Federal cases take months to get to a sentencing hearing, once convicted or plea of guilt. But a sentencing date was submitted and agreed on by all parties (see plea agreement), though it's been delayed due to Clinesmith lawyers making their own pleas to drag out the final sentencing hearing.
We've gone round and round on this, but the soul of the bet was initial conviction (guilty or plea of guilt), and that was in Aug 2020. Well before end of Sept or October that we agreed on.
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According to instructions for absentee ballots, voters are supposed to fill out the outer envelope return address labels before mailing them in.
There's plenty of pictures online of absentee ballots with names or partial names and addresses in the typical upper left corner section of the mail-in ballot envelope. I take it most agree that this is a necessary part of validating an absentee mail-in vote right?
Here's this little tweet video again. Check the box of ballots (at end of video) she's given in a very private setting back in cubey land with no others around.
Do you see any return addresses filled out on the envelopes?
What is she supposed to be doing with these ballots anyway, off in a private setting?
There's plenty of pictures online of absentee ballots with names or partial names and addresses in the typical upper left corner section of the mail-in ballot envelope. I take it most agree that this is a necessary part of validating an absentee mail-in vote right?
Here's this little tweet video again. Check the box of ballots (at end of video) she's given in a very private setting back in cubey land with no others around.
Do you see any return addresses filled out on the envelopes?
What is she supposed to be doing with these ballots anyway, off in a private setting?
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potustench making loeffler turn blue !! ) 
its not over til the fat lady sings !! )
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its not over til the fat lady sings !! )
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Trump’s attempt to bully the Georgia secretary of state into giving him a win in the state is beyond the pale.
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that is not what StuAzole said
that is not what three other attorneys I spoke to said
that is not what any of the substantiating material I provided said
Biden won the vote, but he's not president until inauguration day; by your logic, Biden is president the moment the votes were counted.
a conviction is marked by a very specific court procedure
so I win on technicality and I win in the very spirit of the bet which is that Durham didn't find jack sh!t
but, by all means, keep on fkng that chicken, Dog!!!
Sorry, now you're just getting vindictive and pissy.
The Biden presidency comparison is totally off-base. Trump is still president, no matter what until Jan 20. That's plain for all to see and historical in procedure.
Here's a more concise interpretation of a guilty plea and its immediate result once approved by the court/judge (key is once approved, accepted and signed by judge and both parties).
"The main purpose of a guilty plea is to produce a final conclusion to a criminal case. Once a defendant enters a guilty plea, the prosecutor has no further obligation to introduce evidence of the defendant's guilt. A pleading defendant waives the right to raise most objections to police, prosecutorial, or judicial behavior that could have been raised on appeal after a trial and conviction."
In other words: plea of guilt means no trial and judge and/or jury is not needed to convict. He has self-convicted.
"In other respects, guilty pleas have the same consequences as guilty verdicts. The judgments of conviction carry the identical evidentiary value and ramifications for future proceedings—including the same potential for sentence enhancement and for forfeiture of assets. In many jurisdictions, a guilty plea or guilty verdict fore-closes defendants from suing their lawyers for malpractice."
https://www.encyclopedia.com/law/legal-and-political-magazines/guilty-plea-accepting-plea
This was NOT a "no contest" plea, it was a guilty plea agreement and fully accepted by the judge, and sentencing hearing was ordered following.
The bet should've been on "sentencing" then, since that would be the finality of the whole conviction process. But most lawyers (not all) seem to agree that a guilty plea that is fully accepted and signed by the judge and both parties involved, as a conviction.
We did not have "judgement of conviction" in the bet, which is usually the final, clerical, official designation during or after sentencing.
Also, found this little nugget in the latest "Response to Motion" document regarding the USA vs. Clinesmith case.....
"I. Factual Background
On August 19, 2020, the defendant waived indictment and pleaded guilty to one count of making false statements in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1001(a)(3). The facts underlying the defendant’s conviction are set forth in the Statement of Offense filed in this case on August 19, 2020, Doc. 9, and the government’s sentencing memorandum, Doc. 22."
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17445533/37/united-states-v-clinesmith/
"I. Factual Background
On August 19, 2020, the defendant waived indictment and pleaded guilty to one count of making false statements in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1001(a)(3). The facts underlying the defendant’s conviction are set forth in the Statement of Offense filed in this case on August 19, 2020, Doc. 9, and the government’s sentencing memorandum, Doc. 22."
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17445533/37/united-states-v-clinesmith/
Just to be clear and transparent on the original bet.......
This was after moving the goal posts from simple prosecution to conviction after a few weeks back in Nov 2019.
This was after moving the goal posts from simple prosecution to conviction after a few weeks back in Nov 2019.