Of course I’m going to post something that paints my point view in the best possible light.
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What's so bad about the "Progressive Agenda"?
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says the "anti-vaxxers are like Jews during the holocaust" guy.
How so? So you found that a city has reduced homelessness, but there's still homelessness in a conservative city. And if conservative policy is so grand, why did homelessness start there in the first place?
If I find a liberal city that has also reduced homelessness, what will that tell us? How about Atlanta?
Atlanta’s homeless numbers drop 38% in survey
Atlanta Mayor Andre Dickens announced Thursday the results of a survey that suggests there are fewer homeless people in the city than before the pandemic.www.ajc.com
Maybe it's more complex than liberal or conservative policies.
New count of homeless expected to show pandemic has worsened crisis
On Monday night, nonprofit workers and scores of volunteers plan to set out for Atlanta’s annual “Point-in-Time” count to tally the number of people who are homeless in the city. The 2022 count is the first in Atlanta since the start of the pandemic, a world-shaking event that the U.S. Housing...
www.ajc.com
On Monday night, Atlanta held its annual “Point-in-Time” count to tally the number of people who are homeless in the city and survey them. The results are expected later this year. The 2022 count is the first in Atlanta since the start of the pandemic, a world-shaking event that U.S. Housing and Urban Development Secretary Marcia Fudge has said “only made the homelessness crisis worse.”
The data collected in the count, required by the federal government, helps determine how housing resources are allocated around the country.
In January 2020, 3,240 people were counted in the city of Atlanta, on par with the prior year, though there was a 31% increase in people sleeping outdoors rather than inside homeless shelters. Numerous private and publicly funded shelters serve the city of Atlanta, providing a total 2,800 beds, though many people decline shelters for various reasons, including lack of privacy and fear of catching COVID in close proximity to others. To be included in the Point-in-Time tally, a person must be in transitional housing, unsheltered or in an emergency shelter. The 2021 count was canceled due to COVID concerns.
Uh, yeah? And?New count of homeless expected to show pandemic has worsened crisis
On Monday night, nonprofit workers and scores of volunteers plan to set out for Atlanta’s annual “Point-in-Time” count to tally the number of people who are homeless in the city. The 2022 count is the first in Atlanta since the start of the pandemic, a world-shaking event that the U.S. Housing...
On Monday night, Atlanta held its annual “Point-in-Time” count to tally the number of people who are homeless in the city and survey them. The results are expected later this year. The 2022 count is the first in Atlanta since the start of the pandemic, a world-shaking event that U.S. Housing and Urban Development Secretary Marcia Fudge has said “only made the homelessness crisis worse.”
The data collected in the count, required by the federal government, helps determine how housing resources are allocated around the country.
In January 2020, 3,240 people were counted in the city of Atlanta, on par with the prior year, though there was a 31% increase in people sleeping outdoors rather than inside homeless shelters. Numerous private and publicly funded shelters serve the city of Atlanta, providing a total 2,800 beds, though many people decline shelters for various reasons, including lack of privacy and fear of catching COVID in close proximity to others. To be included in the Point-in-Time tally, a person must be in transitional housing, unsheltered or in an emergency shelter. The 2021 count was canceled due to COVID concerns.
Liberal policies reduced the number of homeless by 38% and it's staying lower! Thanks, Liberals!
“On Monday night, Atlanta held its annual “Point-in-Time” count to tally the number of people who are homeless in the city and survey them. The results are expected later this year. The 2022 count is the first in Atlanta since the start of the pandemic, a world-shaking event that U.S. Housing and Urban Development Secretary Marcia Fudge has said “only made the homelessness crisis worse.”
“In January 2020, 3,240 people were counted in the city of Atlanta, on par with the prior year, though there was a 31% increase in people sleeping outdoors rather than inside homeless shelters.”
Even that language is clear that it's the same reduced number of homeless individuals. They're just sleeping in a different place bc of Covid etc.
Or is it now your contention - since I showed you a LiBeRaL city that has reduced homelessness - that it's not the homeless that are the issue, just the homeless on the streets?
What is the solution to the homeless problem?
How does the progressive agenda cause the homeless problem?
I think homeless should not be allowed to camp ANYWHERE. They should be moved to a camping area nearby, some kind of concentration camp with sanitary facilities, showers, medical attention, clean clothes, arts and crafts, then figure out how to get them to become some kind of productive, tax-paying citizen, if they are willing and able.
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Then when you have their attention, help them figure out how to become a productive citizen, if possible.
And snacks!
You answered your own question.
Allowing people to live outside in an urban environment is cruel. If you live outside in an urban environment you are a danger to yourself and others and should be forcibly placed in a mental health facility or relocated, as you say, to a camping area.
Progressives have been lying (or are just wrong) by saying this is a housing problem. It isn’t. It’s a mental health/addiction problem. In progressive cities they “provide” housing with no requirement to stay sober and in some cases provide “safe” spaces for people to shoot heroin.
Like I said, this cruel and this makes the problem worse.
Also providing such “services” along with straight up cash payments acts as a magnet for more crazies, addicts and just plain old freeloaders to come to.
It’s a complicated issue for sure and there really isn’t any fantastic solution but it has become painfully obvious that doubling and tripling down on the current policies has been a complete failure.
We need to do something different rather than just throwing more money at the same broken ideas.
Also, there’s is so much graft and corruption involved.
Which brings me to another problem with the progressive agenda. It always comes down to more government (tax payer funded) spending and that always results in corruption, graft, waste. Always.
Even when conservatives increase the scope of government (which they do) the same problems arise.
When you’re throwing around billions and trillions a lot of people can get very rich just by skimming off rounding errors. Add to that the power to award lucrative government contracts to your donors….
BTW, I have lived in my car. Hunger is a powerful motivator.
Some people, such as yourself, may thrive during adversity, but many others don't. The best way to deal with homelessness is provide a safe place for homeless people who are having problems or just cannot afford an apartment, to get on their feet. Sorry to call it a "concentration camp" but there is a fence around it. Folks cannot camp on the streets. Like it or not, when they are found living on the street, they get confined until they can prove they are ready to survive in the real world. They need to attend group meetings with other people in their special situation, guided by social workers, coaching, training, and help getting cleaned up and prepared for a job. How many discouraged but capable workers are not matched with a job, so they are unemployed and homeless? If those people entered the work force that would boost the economy.
They had one of those for a while in Santa Cruz, right on Highway 1 by River St. It was dangerous and disgusting and grew rapidly and got out of hand fast. They shut it down and moved all the tents out, there were thousands of needles on the ground when everybody left.
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