New CDC covid guidelines….

Clayster

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Now, now, boys, don't be "science deniers". The left and their media shills always "follow the science".

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StuAzole

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Precisely!!!

I can't imagine how *anyone* would listen to the CDC after the endless stream of bullshit they've pushed.

Telling people to get a flu shot and then 3 follow-on boosters of that same exact flu shot formula designed for an extinct variant of a rapidly mutating virus.

So dumb.

That initial flu shot saved a lot of elderly lives. That was good. Giving it to kids who have already been infected and recovered is malpractice.
I got the vax and a booster, had no side effects and have not had Covid. My entire family has the same story.

fuck Trump and his vaccine!
 
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Bayview

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The trial endpoints did not measure infection and transmission. It was evil to terrorize the unvaccinated as disease spreaders at all, but much more so when the government never had any data on this. Later (April) Rochelle Walensky's colleague at Harvard Marc Lipsitch cooked-up a dubious model on the vaccines' reduction on infection that turned out to be wrong. This is a form of lying.


You don't agree with the approach taken but agree with the dubious, anti-scientific data-free actions in 2020. Got it.
You are highlighting my point with specifics on endpoints and the questions the trials are designed to answer with statistical rigor aren’t what people were saying they were going to answer (ex vaccines prevent spread). Models can be wrong. It’s misleading. Sure, call it lying. Someone should win an academy award for best actor.

to get granular, from mar-fall2020, no one had specific data and did have prior knowledges.This was novel. Some action had to be taken for human safety. I agree. After roughly that time period, I began disagreeing.

I think we have some similar perspectives.
 

PRCD

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You are highlighting my point with specifics on endpoints and the questions the trials are designed to answer with statistical rigor aren’t what people were saying they were going to answer (ex vaccines prevent spread). Models can be wrong. It’s misleading. Sure, call it lying. Someone should win an academy award for best actor.
It is definitely lying. To paraphrase Lord Kelvin, to measure is to know. Without measurements, you cannot build a model that predicts the vaccines' effect on infection and transmission.

to get granular, from mar-fall2020, no one had specific data and did have prior knowledges. This was novel.
False. We had an estimated range of IFRs and while it was a novel coronavirus, it was still a coronavirus and a virus. This we could've reasoned deductively about its behavior and spread.
Some action had to be taken for human safety. I agree.
The draconian NPIs of lockdowns and social distancing were not supported by any data. They were lies from the get-go. Watch Dr. Babich' lecture I posted on the main coronavirus thread. The data on masks has always been equivocal and there are trade-offs to wearing them.
 

Clayster

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I got the vax and a booster, had no side effects and have not had Covid. My entire family has the same story.

fook Trump and his vaccine!
Inductive reasoning will always get you in trouble. I had two moderna shots in 2021, but decided against boosters. In November 2021, I was at a family gathering where everyone got covid, including me. My brother and sister- and their spouses- who had been boosted, were bed ridden and needing medical treatment. Me? Runny nose and scratchy throat for 3 days. Mildest cold I ever had.

So.. should I send this important information to the CDC?
 

Ifallalot

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That you were right? All of it was a farce?
Fck man, take a step back maybe put it in a historical perspective of past pandemics.
Why couldn't it have gone really bad?
That it didn't is something to gloat about, either because of steps taken or it wasn't meant to be.
Sounds like someone coming to grips with how wrong they were
 

Random Guy

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The mask mandate was attempted. The County Health Department led by that ghoul finally backed down when multiple mayors and city councils were refusing. She realized she had lost her power
We’ll, Duffy was sh*tying himself saying it was going to happen
And, irregardless of how sure he was, we waited and saw he was wrong

but I’m sure he’ll be just as sure about the next thing. Doesn’t matter if he turns out he’s right or wrong. All that matters is that he’s sure

not just duffy
And not just righties although righties seem to be bigger doomsday fear mongers than lefties or that person who is neither
 
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PRCD

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We’ll, Duffy was sh*tying himself saying it was going to happen
And, irregardless of how sure he was, we waited and saw he was wrong

but I’m sure he’ll be just as sure about the next thing. Doesn’t matter if he turns out he’s right or wrong. All that matters is that he’s sure

not just duffy
And not just righties although righties seem to be bigger doomsday fear mongers than lefties or that person who is neither
Ok narrative plankton. How many vax-injured people do we need before people like you repent? We knew 18 months ago that 1 in 2,500 - 5,000 boys and young men were getting myocarditis from the mRNA shots. The myocarditis from the shots is now definitely shown to be worse than the mild troponinemia from COVID itself, thus we needlessly injured the hearts of (1/5000) x number of young men getting the shots who were at almost no risk of COVID itself. I've been documenting this with studies guys like you refuse to read.
 
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Woke AF

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We knew very early on that it was overhyped.
I guess you have never been to a doctor. Nobody knew anything for sure, and everyone was guessing. The specialists in the field guessed the best they could. Implications of past pandemics were huge. How many people died of the Plague? Small Pox? If it played out as bad as it could have your puny voice, I don't want to wear a mask... sounds as myopic as your gloating.

Doctors usually take the most conservative position because they see the worst of it. This was also a social problem, so the government had to get involved. So it is a perfect sht storm.

but you want to gloat.:foreheadslap:
 

Random Guy

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Ok narrative plankton. How many vax-injured people do we need before people like you repent? We knew 18 months ago that 1 in 2,500 - 5,000 boys and young men were getting myocarditis from the mRNA shots. The myocarditis from the shots is now definitely shown to be worse than the mild troponinemia from COVID itself, thus we needlessly injured the hearts of (1/5000) x number of young men getting the shots who were at almost no risk of COVID itself. I've been documenting this with studies guys like you refuse to read.
You want me to repent?
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I have nothing to repent for

I got faxed but didn’t get boosted
I’ve been over it for a while now
Find someone else to blame if they makes you feel better
Is that what Jesus would do?
 
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PRCD

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You want me to repent?
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I have nothing to repent for
You all do. You mindlessly followed the Narrative just like you're doing now with the new gender ideology and real people are suffering real harm like GWS's daughter who is vax-injured from her booster. The coercion for vaccination was based on the credulity and compliance of people like you who follow The Narrative and pressure others to do the same, which what you're here doing.

Repent, or at least keep quiet. You're not "over it" which is why you're posting in this thread. It's like when you criticize anyone who raises objections to the new gender ideology coercion.