Boosters for everyone (for ever and ever)…Mask up, bitches!

crustBrother

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Yes, the anti jab and anti mask crowd would never stoop to mischaracterize the draconian, tyrannical forceful abuse suffered by those unlucky enough to hear the phrase “hey, can you put on a mask?”.
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Hey can you stop posting here?

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hammies

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That’s not the problem I have. It’s when the Powers That Be say “follow the science” when pushing something, then ignore the science when it shows that their mandates are pointless. Such as covid vaccines for children or outdoor mask mandates.
The funny thing is that a person who won't take a doctor's recommendation to get vaxxed because <insert reason here> will take the same doctor's advice for something else when political beliefs are not involved.
 

Ifallalot

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Yes, the anti jab and anti mask crowd would never stoop to mischaracterize the draconian, tyrannical forceful abuse suffered by those unlucky enough to hear the phrase “hey, can you put on a mask?”.
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Doubling down I see

It’s amazing how many people have no idea what freedom is or how risky of a road we're treading on

But that’s fine, you’re a good subject
 

Duffy LaCoronilla

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Still repeating fallacies.
It’s fact. They don’t do sh!t unless it’s a properly fitted and frequently changed N95 mask and even that’s debatable.

COVID is spread as an aerosol, meaning it’s essentially vapor and will be present in an enclosed space if an infected person is breathing in that room, mask or no mask.

There is no correlation between mask usage and infection rates and there is no scientific study that shows cloth coverings or surgical masks prevent the spread of COVID.
 

Phi1

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Doubling down I see

It’s amazing how many people have no idea what freedom is or how risky of a road we're treading on

But that’s fine, you’re a good subject
Don’t get me wrong, I do include myself in the “dumb average American crowd”. So that’s something we can all agree on. :roflmao:
 

grapedrink

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The funny thing is that a person who won't take a doctor's recommendation to get vaxxed because <insert reason here> will take the same doctor's advice for something else when political beliefs are not involved.
Don't go strawmanning now. I'm not advocating that people not get vaxxed, and I think that most should (including myself, which i have).
 

Driftcoast

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Statement:
Masks don’t work.
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It’s fact. They don’t do sh!t unless it’s a properly fitted and frequently changed N95 mask and even that’s debatable.
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There is no correlation between mask usage and infection rates and there is no scientific study that shows cloth coverings or surgical masks prevent the spread of COVID.
There was a recent study in Bangladesh that says otherwise, champ. Please try to keep up before you ignorantly spew more lies or otherwise

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Duffy LaCoronilla

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There was a recent study in Bangladesh that says otherwise, champ. Please try to keep up before you ignorantly spew more lies or otherwise

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Got a link to the actual study?

I ask because there have been numerous studies that show cloth and surgical masks don’t do sh!t. This study would contradict those.

Also, have you ever even read the box that surgical masks come in?

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Norm'

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Got a link to the actual study?

I ask because there have been numerous studies that show cloth and surgical masks don’t do sh!t. This study would contradict those.

Also, have you ever even read the box that surgical masks come in?

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When someone around you sneezes or coughs, would you prefer that they tilt their had back and let it rip, or that they do it into their sleeve or a tissue?
 
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2surf

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The funny thing is that a person who won't take a doctor's recommendation to get vaxxed because <insert reason here> will take the same doctor's advice for something else when political beliefs are not involved.
I just completed a video visit with my nephrologist. We went over the bloodwork from my last two months and the Retuxian infusions I had in August have brought my protein in the urine levels all the way down to normal. This means the corresponding protein in my blood has risen to normal levels. Looks like my kidneys are actually healing themselves. So we celebrated the good news with congratulations and virtual pats on the back. Then I addressed the elephant in the room.

Do you recommend I get a COVID booster shot? He quickly replied no, under no circumstances.
 

Mr Doof

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I am not sure what study is presently being used by Team X to beat Team S over the head with, but from this this Nature article (link), I followed the trail to this (link), which in turn means you have to click on a download link to see the paper. Looks like it needs peer review, so, am sure there will be discussion about that angle as well.

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By my seat of the pants observations of real life, it seems to me that if masks didn't help reduce transmission of aerosol droplets which may contain germs, they wouldn't be used during any routine surgery. Whether or not this observation applies to viral pandemics, yeah, I don't know 100% if I can say, but for me any increase above 0 % with minimal cost to me sounds worthwhile.

PS

Another Nature article with links to other pro mask studies, just in case the above is not what is being talked about.
 

Sharkbiscuit

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for me any increase above 0 % with minimal cost to me sounds worthwhile.
How can you say the cost is minimal, when you're doing something that's not solely for your benefit without the entire rest of the world dropping to their knees, thanking you for your excellence, slobbing your knob, and begging you not to go to Galt's Gulch?

It's all so communist and totalitarian.
 
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Mr Doof

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It is sort of the same reason I try to just shut up about my property taxes going to help pay for public schools when I don't have any kids. For the USA to get ahead, helping kids get some smarts activated (by attending and learning something in school) is a long term investment than might help me out in the long run.

In the short term, it keeps more of them out of the line-up where they can out-compete me with their youthful recovery rates.
 

Sharkbiscuit

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OBSF is NOT supposed to be have a "line-up" where competing with other people happens.

Your closest interaction is supposed to be wistfully looking at someone in a wave valley a block or three away while a mountain is about to flatten you, or vice versa.