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First time since I've been paying attention that I've seen them do stock boards only. Maybe too many people on here pointing out you could get a brand new custom for less than the shaper's price if the sale was on .Summer sale is on for stock boards
If there is a flaw in the system, surfers will figure it out, ha. I'm curious how Proctor will end up placing his price point when he gets setup with XTR.First time since I've been paying attention that I've seen them do stock boards only. Maybe too many people on here pointing out you could get a brand new custom for less than the shaper's price if the sale was on .
I don't really consider this a flaw, Javi and the shapers he works with run fairly different businesses. Javi is going to be more willing to offer a discount to get new people on XTR boards, whereas Pyzel, Mayhem etc have no incentive to do this. I think XTR offers a great product at a fair price at full retail and I'm happy to pay it, but the occasional $100 off is/was a nice bonus. I would venture to guess their margins are crazy tight with that discount on.If there is a flaw in the system, surfers will figure it out, ha. I'm curious how Proctor will end up placing his price point when he gets setup with XTR.
I'm surprised they aren't more popular in general. TBH I think a better website would go a long way. It's so confusing if you've never heard of them before. Like... I can order any of these brands in custom dims? From this seemingly random website? That looks like it was built in the 90s and never updated? I honestly thought it was a scam at first it made no sense to me at all.Yeah, even here in SD where they are based, majority of surfers (that I know) have no idea what XTR is. I get the impression he has a large Japanese customer base, which I'm sure helps his margins.
That's a very good point. I think they make the blanks and the epoxy resin themselves (not sure about the glass itself but that's relatively cheap). Probably helps them a lot and reduces waste/carbon footprint so it's a win-win.I don't know the first thing about the margins, but I believe XTR is more vertically integrated than other manufacturers. My understanding is that everything is done in house, from the blank to glassing.
Could be the delam issues they had way back early 00s that gave ppl a bad first impression. I have no idea why people use EPS instead of XPS.I'm surprised they aren't more popular in general. TBH I think a better website would go a long way. It's so confusing if you've never heard of them before. Like... I can order any of these brands in custom dims? From this seemingly random website? That looks like it was built in the 90s and never updated? I honestly thought it was a scam at first it made no sense to me at all.
I agree but it seems like nobody other than XTR can get XPS foam not to delam. There was some discussion on here (maybe earlier in this thread?) that Rusty was tying to use it without giving XTR patent royalties and they just couldn't figure it out. Javi and co have done the research to get it down over years of trial and error, or so it seems!Could be the delam issues they had way back early 00s that gave ppl a bad first impression. I have no idea why people use EPS instead of XPS.